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  • Serial_Apologist
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 37637

    Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
    Down here in North Wilts some stalwart orange calendulas in my front garden haven't stopped flowering since the summer.

    http://www.flowerspictures.org/image...ula-flower.jpg
    Likewise here with the heebie-jeebies!

    Heard my first song thrush this very afternoon!

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    • greenilex
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 1626

      Morning all - warm(ish) and rather gloomy here so far. Bulbs far advanced but not yet in flower.

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      • salymap
        Late member
        • Nov 2010
        • 5969

        Morning all, especially greenilex. Ditto here,very dark and wondering if Ican stagger to the Co-op, which gets further away all the time.

        Seagulls are arriving sothat may mean bad weather on the coast later.

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        • antongould
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 8781

          Now we've both heard of The Moving Toyshop .......but the moving Co-op??

          Are the BBC weather boffins aware of the Seagulls Over Sidcup theory?

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          • salymap
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 5969

            Originally posted by antongould View Post
            Now we've both heard of The Moving Toyshop .......but the moving Co-op??

            Are the BBC weather boffins aware of the Seagulls Over Sidcup theory?
            What's it like in Tyne and Wear this morning,anton?

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            • antongould
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 8781

              Originally posted by salymap View Post
              What's it like in Tyne and Wear this morning,anton?
              Our daughters tell me it is grey and cold dear lady. No more seagulls than usual and the local Sainsburys refuses to budge.

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              • Serial_Apologist
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 37637

                Who was Sid Cup?? The etymology (??) of the name would be most interesting to know!

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                • salymap
                  Late member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 5969

                  Side something or other S-A. I read it once but have forgotten. Side coup or summit. Whereas nearby Chislehurst is Chesall [?] meaning stoney ground.

                  Very gloomy weather today but dry so far.

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                  • gurnemanz
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7382

                    Googling "Sidcup etymology" reveals

                    SIDCUP, a hamlet near Foots Cray, Kent, named from the
                    Sedcopp family, who formerly possessed a large estate in the
                    neighbourhood. Thomas de Sedcopp was owner of this estate in
                    35 Henry VI., as appears by his deed.

                    The last sentence appears not to make complete sense.

                    Foots Cray is another story.

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                    • Serial_Apologist
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 37637

                      Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
                      Googling "Sidcup etymology" reveals

                      SIDCUP, a hamlet near Foots Cray, Kent, named from the
                      Sedcopp family, who formerly possessed a large estate in the
                      neighbourhood. Thomas de Sedcopp was owner of this estate in
                      35 Henry VI., as appears by his deed.

                      The last sentence appears not to make complete sense.

                      Foots Cray is another story.
                      Many thanks, gurnemanz!

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                      • antongould
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 8781

                        Preumably Sedcopp gives us not only Sidcup but possibly also the moving Copp/Coop??

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                        • salymap
                          Late member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 5969

                          Sorry folks but cousin who is a local historian says that family took their name from the hamlet, called something like Side coup, [{side of a hill,] not the other way round. Shock, horror, Google is wrong.

                          Back on topic. Very cold wind when I went shopping earlier. Dry though, so let us give thanks for that.

                          Where is everyone today??

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                          • Anna

                            Originally posted by salymap View Post
                            Sorry folks but cousin who is a local historian says that family took their name from the hamlet, called something like Side coup, [{side of a hill,] not the other way round. Shock, horror, Google is wrong.

                            Back on topic. Very cold wind when I went shopping earlier. Dry though, so let us give thanks for that.

                            Where is everyone today??
                            According to wiki, on the origin of the name of Sidcup: The name is thought to be derived from Cetecopp meaning 'seat shaped or flat topped hill'; it had its earliest recorded use in 1254 which agrees with what saly's cousin says. Still ridiculously warm here, 12degrees, but grey and dull. Next week's RT has pull out Brian Cox stargazing chart, quite useful if we get clear nights in January!

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                            • salymap
                              Late member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 5969

                              Thanks Anna, that chart looks interesting. It must be that hill [!] It's always very windy here and 12 degrees or not, crossing the main road to the shops, my trolley nearly took off and had to hang on tight.

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                              • Anna

                                Originally posted by salymap View Post
                                Thanks Anna, that chart looks interesting. It must be that hill [!] It's always very windy here and 12 degrees or not, crossing the main road to the shops, my trolley nearly took off and had to hang on tight.
                                And now we can imagine you as the Mary Poppins of Sidcup, floating aloft suspended by your trolley! You do know the Co-Op do home deliveries, free if you spend £25?

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