Stormy Weather

[cloughie]

A lot cooler today,plenty of cloud,lovely morning for a long walk with Harry,Alkan Esquisses on the i pod.

Cloudy here with a fairly stiff but warm breeze - 18 degrees.

[Petrushka]

Cloudy with spitting rain and a stiff breeze this morning. Not particularly chilly but a lot cooler than it has been. The huge build up of heat over the past week or so keeps it very warm indeed inside.

[amateur51]

It was a lot cooler this morning, as it was last evening with quite a stiff and cool breeze as I walked past the local mosque, families gathering and the squeals of young children cutting through the cul-de-sac quietness, excited at being allowed up so late.

But now the sun is starting to burn through the cloud and the sparrows are getting excited about the extras of sunflower hearts that I've put out for them plus three new fat balls.

For the first time recently it feels a bit humid.

[mangerton]

For the first time recently it feels a bit humid.

Yes, we've got that too, though we call it "close". Still, the sun is out - more than it is at Muirfield, 35 miles or so south - and it's a pleasantly warm afternoon, c 19ºC.

As others have said, good to hear from marthe again.

[amateur51]

Yes, we've got that too, though we call it "close". Still, the sun is out - more than it is at Muirfield, 35 miles or so south - and it's a pleasantly warm afternoon, c 19ºC.

As others have said, good to hear from marthe again.

Humid? Close? Whatever happened to 'muggy'?

[Anna]

Firstly, greeting to marthe and hopes that her crises are now resolved.

It was so (comparatively) cool last night that with all the windows open and a breeze I went from a single sheet covering to back under the duvet! At 8'oclock this morning it was so fresh I decided it justified a cooked breakfast - this in part to boost energy levels for grass cutting, which I've just finished. (If I'd realised both neighbours were away for the day I would have done it first thing)

It's nudging 24° but a nice NE breeze at a constant 5-7mph, lovely and cool indoors and not too *close outdoors. I've been observing butterflies for the Butterfly Count, very educational, I thought I had a rare one but using their identification chart it was merely a common Ringlet!
*Isn't there a distinction between close and muggy, the latter meaning a feeling of dampness in the air rather than just airless?

[salymap]

Not bad here but getting close, muggy or humid now.

Hello marthe, I can't use my emails much at the moment but hope all is well with HH,you

and everyone else that side of the pond.

regards, saly

[Petrushka]

No sign of cloud lifting here and we've had some drizzle which came as a shock and a stiff cool breeze. I always thought that close, muggy and humid meant the same thing. Don't tell me I've been wrong all these years!

[mangerton]

*Isn't there a distinction between close and muggy, the latter meaning a feeling of dampness in the air rather than just airless?

This could be a whole new thread! North of Hadrian's wall, close means exactly the same as your definition of muggy, a word not used in Scotland, or at least not in the circles I frequent.

Glad to hear you've got the grass cut. How are the beans?

OT the sun has now disappeared, and there's a slight breeze.

Edit: I should have introduced the female Sophie Clammy who is often mentioned when close, muggy or humid conditions are enountered in the west of Scotland.

[mercia]

sultry here

[Anna]

This could be a whole new thread! North of Hadrian's wall, close means exactly the same as your definition of muggy, a word not used in Scotland, or at least not in the circles I frequent.

Glad to hear you've got the grass cut. How are the beans?

Well, the word muggy (unpleasantly warm) comes from 'mugga' meaning mist, drizzle. Close (uncomfortably airless) comes from 'clausam' meaning enclosure. To me, muggy is when you get that film of moisture on forehead and back of the neck, close is when the weather closes in! But I'm not going to pick nits over this!!
Beans are doing fine but I think I may get a bigger return from the dwarfs rather than the runners, early days yet. The tomatoes are rampant and I must pinch their tips out later.

sultry here

And of course - here comes mercia with a totally different word!

[Serial_Apologist]

As far as I understand, "muggy" indicates some windiness, along with high humidity, and normal or above normal temperatures. "Close" indicates the same conditions, but with little or no wind.

A very pleasant afternoon here, once the stratocumulus sheet broke up around midday; slight haze, gentle east-north-easterly breeze, temperature maxing out at 24 C - conditions conducive to a leisurely 2 mile walk through the woods to the Horniman Museum park, from whence are afforded wonderful views of all the famous London landmarks, with sunbathers an added extra!

Just been listening to Stravinsky's "Orpheus" ; I don't normally listen to 20th century neoclassical music, but Stravinsky's and Malipiero's more limpid chamber and orchestral pieces from the '30s and '40s appear to make ideal listening material in this hot weather.

[Anna]

As far as I understand, "muggy" indicates some windiness, along with high humidity, and normal or above normal temperatures. "Close" indicates the same conditions, but with little or no wind.

A very pleasant afternoon here, once the stratocumulus sheet broke up around midday; slight haze, gentle east-north-easterly breeze, temperature maxing out at 24 C - conditions conducive to a leisurely 2 mile walk through the woods to the Horniman Museum park, from whence are afforded wonderful views of all the famous London landmarks, with sunbathers an added extra!

Just been listening to Stravinsky's "Orpheus" ; I don't normally listen to 20th century neoclassical music, but Stravinsky's and Malipiero's more limpid chamber and orchestral pieces from the '30s and '40s appear to make ideal listening material in this hot weather.

Oh No, you don't get wind with muggy! Muggy is windless, it's like walking into a hot, wet, blanket! Sultry (to me) is when a summer storm is brewing, does it come from the word 'swelter'? I don't think (weatherwise) there is any correct definition, and as mangerton says, they don't do muggy in Scotland

I can report it has been neither close, muggy, humid or sultry here. With a high of 24.7 and a refreshing breeze it's been one of the coolest days we've had for over a week, hence I was able to tackle the grasscutting in full sun with no difficulty. I've been listening, on and off, to TMS. I certainly don't envy you Londoners and South-Easters the temperatures they are forecasting tomorrow.

[mangerton]

Oh No, you don't get wind with muggy! Muggy is windless, it's like walking into a hot, wet, blanket! Sultry (to me) is when a summer storm is brewing, does it come from the word 'swelter'? I don't think (weatherwise) there is any correct definition, and as mangerton says, they don't do muggy in Scotland

I can report it has been neither close, muggy, humid or sultry here. With a high of 24.7 and a refreshing breeze it's been one of the coolest days we've had for over a week, hence I was able to tackle the grasscutting in full sun with no difficulty. I've been listening, on and off, to TMS. I certainly don't envy you Londoners and South-Easters the temperatures they are forecasting tomorrow.

Yes, my Chambers says sultry comes from swelter, and I'd agree with your definition with regard to weather. It says a lot of other things about "sultry" too, which we don't need to go into here.

Not sultry here. The sun has now gone, the wind has dropped and I suspect the mist will soon descend.

[Serial_Apologist]

Oh No, you don't get wind with muggy! Muggy is windless, it's like walking into a hot, wet, blanket! Sultry (to me) is when a summer storm is brewing, does it come from the word 'swelter'? I don't think (weatherwise) there is any correct definition, and as mangerton says, they don't do muggy in Scotland

I can report it has been neither close, muggy, humid or sultry here. With a high of 24.7 and a refreshing breeze it's been one of the coolest days we've had for over a week, hence I was able to tackle the grasscutting in full sun with no difficulty. I've been listening, on and off, to TMS. I certainly don't envy you Londoners and South-Easters the temperatures they are forecasting tomorrow.

Nor I, Anna! I've trapped some nice cool air in here, which should stay the duration so long as the 32 C is only for 1 day and I keep windows and curtains shut. But it's Tuesday I'm not looking forward to, given the forecast of severe storms, having invited an old school friend over for an evening set to include quite long walks between here, a local Goan restaurant, and my usual New Cross gig.