Stormy Weather

[amateur51]

Today is, if anything, even nicer than yesterday in NW London. No wind, plenty of sunshine, temp rising nicely, ah me!

Plus the Jubilee line is out of action for repairs/upgrading to the Metropolitan line and all is (mostly) peaceful - almost unheard of

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

the middle kingdom is the very heaven at the moment ....the sky and land are the very essences of blues and greens and reds with the clearest of air ... and nippy!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Yes; the Pennines are glorious today, too: crisp air, no cold wind and very warm when in the sun. And the colours of this season are heart-achingly beautiful. A day to rejoice at being alive.

[salymap]

The sort of autumn day I remember from September holidays, I'm sorry I've had the garden seat put in the shed now.

Pity about the craneflies though. Ugh. I know, a short life and a ahm, gay one for them

[mangerton]

A beautiful day here in Dundee today, but cool. Aged mother reports the same from the west coast.

I'm off to west Yorks. on Friday, so I hope it keeps up.

[amateur51]

A day to rejoice at being alive.

[Anna]

I'm interested to hear about the circumflex ê (Alt136) as I didn't know Welsh had accents. Does it have any others?

Welsh has four accents, grave, acute, circumflex and diaeresis (which sounds like an ailment induced by over indulgence in laverbread) I can't explain why or how so have lifted the following from Wiki. As you will see the rules are clearly defined except when they aren't!!

The circumflex is used to mark long vowels, so â, ê, î, ô, û, ŵ, ŷ are always long. However, not all long vowels are marked with a circumflex, so a, e, i, o, u, w, y with no circumflex are not necessarily short!

The grave accent is sometimes used to mark vowels that should be short, when a long vowel would normally be expected

The acute accent is sometimes used to mark a stressed final syllable in a polysyllabic word. However, not all polysyllabic words with final stress are marked with the acute accent!

The diaeresis indicates that a vowel letter is to be pronounced fully, not as a semivowel.

I'm sure the above is not at all enlightening! OT, not as nice as yesterday, morning mist very slow to clear and generally a bit hazy, looking a bit rainy, but mild.

[mangerton]

Welsh has four accents, grave, acute, circumflex and diaeresis (which sounds like an ailment induced by over indulgence in laverbread) I can't explain why or how so have lifted the following from Wiki. As you will see the rules are clearly defined except when they aren't!!

The circumflex is used to mark long vowels, so â, ê, î, ô, û, ŵ, ŷ are always long. However, not all long vowels are marked with a circumflex, so a, e, i, o, u, w, y with no circumflex are not necessarily short!

The grave accent is sometimes used to mark vowels that should be short, when a long vowel would normally be expected

The acute accent is sometimes used to mark a stressed final syllable in a polysyllabic word. However, not all polysyllabic words with final stress are marked with the acute accent!

The diaeresis indicates that a vowel letter is to be pronounced fully, not as a semivowel.

I'm sure the above is not at all enlightening! OT, not as nice as yesterday, morning mist very slow to clear and generally a bit hazy, looking a bit rainy, but mild.

Anna, thank you. It was enlightening and quite comprehensible after application of a wet towel to the skull, and a few g & t's. (Not necessarily in that order. )

I hope the weather improves in your neck of the woods.

[BBMmk2]

Rather dull and overcast today and trying to rain and a bit cold!! Have music on thank goodness!! :)

[amateur51]

Welsh has four accents, grave, acute, circumflex and diaeresis (which sounds like an ailment induced by over indulgence in laverbread) I can't explain why or how so have lifted the following from Wiki. As you will see the rules are clearly defined except when they aren't!!

The circumflex is used to mark long vowels, so â, ê, î, ô, û, ŵ, ŷ are always long. However, not all long vowels are marked with a circumflex, so a, e, i, o, u, w, y with no circumflex are not necessarily short!

The grave accent is sometimes used to mark vowels that should be short, when a long vowel would normally be expected

The acute accent is sometimes used to mark a stressed final syllable in a polysyllabic word. However, not all polysyllabic words with final stress are marked with the acute accent!

The diaeresis indicates that a vowel letter is to be pronounced fully, not as a semivowel.

I'm sure the above is not at all enlightening! OT, not as nice as yesterday, morning mist very slow to clear and generally a bit hazy, looking a bit rainy, but mild.

This is all news to me. In Cymraeg Lefel O 1968 we only encountered the circumflex - certainly not acute nor grave

[Serial_Apologist]

This is all news to me. In Cymraeg Lefel O 1968 we only encountered the circumflex - certainly not acute nor grave

But I'd imagine very painful...

[salymap]

But I'd imagine very painful...

Yes S-A, quite agree. On topic, when will this rain here stop please ?

[Pianorak]

Yes S-A, quite agree. On topic, when will this rain here stop please ?

Comes without a guarantee: http://www.thisiskent.co.uk/weather

Other forecasts are available.

[vinteuil]

This is all news to me. In Cymraeg Lefel O 1968 we only encountered the circumflex - certainly not acute nor grave

... wiki adds:

"Diacritics

Welsh makes use of a number of diacritics.

The circumflex (ˆ) is used to mark long vowels, so â, ê, î, ô, û, ŵ, ŷ are always long. However, not all long vowels are marked with a circumflex, so a, e, i, o, u, w, y with no circumflex are not necessarily short;

The grave accent (`) is sometimes used to mark vowels that should be short, when a long vowel would normally be expected, e.g. pas /pɑːs/ (a cough), pàs /pas/ (a pass/permit or a lift in a car); mwg /muːɡ/ (smoke), mẁg /mʊɡ/ (a mug).

The acute accent (´) is sometimes used to mark a stressed final syllable in a polysyllabic word. Thus the words gwacáu (to empty) and dicléin (decline) have final stress. However, not all polysyllabic words with final stress are marked with the acute accent (Cymraeg "Welsh", for example, is written with none). The acute may also be used to indicate a w that represents a vowel in a context where a glide might have been expected, e.g. gẃraidd /ˈɡʊ.raið/ (two syllables) "manly", as opposed to gwraidd /ˈɡwraið/ (one syllable) "root".

The diaeresis (¨) indicates that a vowel letter is to be pronounced fully, not as a semivowel, e.g. copïo (to copy) pronounced /kɔˈpiːɔ/, not */ˈkɔpjɔ/.

The grave and acute accents in particular are very often omitted in casual writing, and the same is true to a lesser extent of the diaeresis. The circumflex, however, is usually included. Accented vowels are not considered distinct letters."

[amateur51]

... wiki adds:

"Diacritics

Welsh makes use of a number of diacritics.

The circumflex (ˆ) is used to mark long vowels, so â, ê, î, ô, û, ŵ, ŷ are always long. However, not all long vowels are marked with a circumflex, so a, e, i, o, u, w, y with no circumflex are not necessarily short;

The grave accent (`) is sometimes used to mark vowels that should be short, when a long vowel would normally be expected, e.g. pas /pɑːs/ (a cough), pàs /pas/ (a pass/permit or a lift in a car); mwg /muːɡ/ (smoke), mẁg /mʊɡ/ (a mug).

The acute accent (´) is sometimes used to mark a stressed final syllable in a polysyllabic word. Thus the words gwacáu (to empty) and dicléin (decline) have final stress. However, not all polysyllabic words with final stress are marked with the acute accent (Cymraeg "Welsh", for example, is written with none). The acute may also be used to indicate a w that represents a vowel in a context where a glide might have been expected, e.g. gẃraidd /ˈɡʊ.raið/ (two syllables) "manly", as opposed to gwraidd /ˈɡwraið/ (one syllable) "root".

The diaeresis (¨) indicates that a vowel letter is to be pronounced fully, not as a semivowel, e.g. copïo (to copy) pronounced /kɔˈpiːɔ/, not */ˈkɔpjɔ/.

The grave and acute accents in particular are very often omitted in casual writing, and the same is true to a lesser extent of the diaeresis. The circumflex, however, is usually included. Accented vowels are not considered distinct letters."

I repeat, never heard of any such thing, except the circumflex, in 'O' level 'Welsh as a Foreign Language' 1968.

You can't believe everything you read on wiki, y'know