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  • oddoneout
    Full Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 9308

    FF's comments about R2 have reminded me that many years ago I would listen to Brian Kay's programme of an evening when I was either too tired to cope with "serious" music, or the R3 offering didn't appeal. The tuning dial would stray in that direction on other occasions as well - the occasional burst of brass band for instance, or The Organist Entertains. I don't think my listening experience has been improved by the loss of those programmes as R3 has not provided a replacement.

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    • antongould
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 8836

      Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
      I'm ignorant here. Out of curiosity, does Radio 3 still broadcast directly from physical CDs or from some kind of computer storage?
      To show myself in an even worse light than usual ….. when we prepare the Sunday dinner we listen to Johnny Walker on R2 with Bob Harris currently sitting in …… on his first week the whole system crashed and had to be rebooted with absolutely no mention of CD players even as backup ….
      Coincidentally on yesterday’s show there was a problem with “the network” and we had a lot of interruptions of fill in music with sound checks that went on for about 10 minutes before Whispering Bob appeared …. all on Sounds…
      Last edited by antongould; 24-01-23, 18:22.

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      • antongould
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 8836

        Letter in today’s Grauniad

        In A World Of Formulaic Stations, BBC Radio 3 Is Fun

        In your editorial on Radio 3 (The Guardian view on Radio 3’s new leader: a tough challenge ahead, 22 January), you pose some questions frequently asked about the network, one being whether it should showcase music or include drama too. Anyone who listens to Radio 3 knows that it does. There is a new play or a new production of a classic every Sunday night.
        Radio 3 has many other hidden gems. There are outstanding jazz, folk and world music shows on Saturdays and Sundays. Fellow former devotees of The Archers will find a warm and witty welcome in the Radio 3 Mixtape every weeknight at 7pm. Try Radio 3. In a world of formulaic radio, it’s fun.
        Gillian Reynolds
        London

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        • smittims
          Full Member
          • Aug 2022
          • 4389

          Hmm... reads suspiciously like an in-house job, that.

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          • cloughie
            Full Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 22205

            Originally posted by antongould View Post
            Letter in today’s Grauniad

            In A World Of Formulaic Stations, BBC Radio 3 Is Fun

            In your editorial on Radio 3 (The Guardian view on Radio 3’s new leader: a tough challenge ahead, 22 January), you pose some questions frequently asked about the network, one being whether it should showcase music or include drama too. Anyone who listens to Radio 3 knows that it does. There is a new play or a new production of a classic every Sunday night.
            Radio 3 has many other hidden gems. There are outstanding jazz, folk and world music shows on Saturdays and Sundays. Fellow former devotees of The Archers will find a warm and witty welcome in the Radio 3 Mixtape every weeknight at 7pm. Try Radio 3. In a world of formulaic radio, it’s fun.
            Gillian Reynolds
            London
            I think Gillian Reynolds is a Radio 2 exile!

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            • antongould
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 8836

              Originally posted by smittims View Post
              Hmm... reads suspiciously like an in-house job, that.
              Not the Gillian Reynolds then …….. ??????

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              • Ein Heldenleben
                Full Member
                • Apr 2014
                • 6962

                Originally posted by smittims View Post
                Hmm... reads suspiciously like an in-house job, that.
                Gillian was the Daily Telegraph Radio critic for forty years so I don’t t think so. One of the better media critics I think.

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30510

                  Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                  I think Gillian Reynolds is a Radio 2 exile!
                  I had long correspondence with GR a while back. One of her quotes is still on the revolving display on the FoR3 homepage:

                  "A constant anxiety across Radio 3's 60 years, expressed in many voices, was what the network was for, what it was supposed to be doing, whether it should be a creator, a pacemaker, a "great aesthetic endeavour", offering "something larger to cling to". That argument persists. These days, I long for something larger to cling to in the way of philosophic and aesthetic discourse."
                  Gillian Reynolds

                  She also disputed the fact that Radio 3 "didn't have adverts" when she was giving evidence to the DCMS Charter Review seminar in '200?' - I can't remember the year. But as one sees here, in this very place, memories fade and people become used to what's available
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • antongould
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 8836

                    Originally posted by french frank View Post
                    …….” But as one sees here, in this very place, memories fade and people become used to what's available
                    Who are these terrible people ff …… ??????

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30510

                      Originally posted by antongould View Post
                      Who are these terrible people ff …… ??????
                      No names! People who expected a certain amount of intellectual 'stretch' from R3 but who enjoy what they're now getting. But perhaps there aren't any such people?
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • oddoneout
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 9308

                        Originally posted by french frank View Post
                        No names! People who expected a certain amount of intellectual 'stretch' from R3 but who enjoy what they're now getting. But perhaps there aren't any such people?
                        Becoming used to what's available doesn't necessarily mean the dreams and hopes have disappeared, nor does it mean uncritical acceptance of anything and everything that is currently broadcast.

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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30510

                          Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                          Becoming used to what's available doesn't necessarily mean the dreams and hopes have disappeared, nor does it mean uncritical acceptance of anything and everything that is currently broadcast.
                          No, of course it doesn't. But the difference lies in the individual's reaction: for me, there isn't enough left of what I valued to make Radio 3 a 'radio station': it's just occasional programmes or items which don't make Radio 3 of enough general interest to bother with. I have other interests. I don't want background listening at all: I prefer silence - but that's just me. But my feelings and the feelings of listeners like me were the incentive for setting up FoR3 - and later this forum - 20 odd years ago. It's disheartening to find people are forgetting that, shrugging and putting up with things - or never knew about them in the first place.
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • smittims
                            Full Member
                            • Aug 2022
                            • 4389

                            Absolutely, ff!

                            Do not go gentle into that Good Night.

                            Rage, rage , against the dying of the light!

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                            • DracoM
                              Host
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 12994

                              What do we want 'restored' / 'rejected' to the R3 offering to make / continue to make it it essential listening?
                              e.g. 'Brains Trust'?
                              Record Review progs that ARGUE the case for AND against recordings rather than merely summarising them?
                              Leave West End show music to R2
                              etc etc

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                              • smittims
                                Full Member
                                • Aug 2022
                                • 4389

                                'The Innocent Ear'.

                                'Interpretations on record'

                                'Historic interpretations on record'.

                                The Christmas Quiz (probably ditched for being 'elitist' in that it required some knowledge of classical music at a time when 'University Challenge' contestants could not distinguish Palestrina from Puccini (and actual example) ) .

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