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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30511

    Originally posted by Beresford View Post
    Sam Jackson - a long time at Classic FM and it's parent companies - now Radio3 controller of music and Proms
    Darren Henley - a long time at Classic FM - now Chairman of Arts Council England (for at least 7 years)

    Do I detect a pattern here? And are politics involved?
    The airy heights of "high arts", Radio 3 and their like have ascended to the empyrean, out of sight of the politicians - and beyond the ken most of the audiences, it seems.

    Originally posted by LHC View Post
    Well Darren Henley was the favourite to become the Controller of R3 until ACE's latest funding round was announced and his incompetence was laid bare for all to see. Apparently the BBC had to quickly find an alternative candidate as Henley would have been a very controversial appointment after proposing ENO move to a car park in Manchester.
    Fascinating little nugget!
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • Ein Heldenleben
      Full Member
      • Apr 2014
      • 6963

      Originally posted by LHC View Post
      Well Darren Henley was the favourite to become the Controller of R3 until ACE's latest funding round was announced and his incompetence was laid bare for all to see. Apparently the BBC had to quickly find an alternative candidate as Henley would have been a very controversial appointment after proposing ENO move to a car park in Manchester.
      Not doubting you but do you have a reliable source for that ?

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      • LHC
        Full Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 1567

        Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
        Not doubting you but do you have a reliable source for that ?
        The generally unreliable Lebrecht reported a few weeks ago that the BBC had been all set to announce Henley, but had to change their mind and search for someone else. While I would generally take much of his gossip with a large pinch of salt, the story appears to have been corroborated by Opera Magazine. As Master Jacques reported yesterday on the ENO thread:

        "There's a very good editorial in today's Opera, highlighting the shifty, contradictory vacillations of ENO's CEO Stuart Murphy, and the rabid anti-operatic bigotry of Darren Henley of ACE. From what John Allison says, it seems that the appalling Henley was being lined up to replace Alan Davey (another ex-ACE toady) as Controller of Radio 3, but that his incompetence has become so apparent over the last couple of months that he has cooked his goose as far as that little career move is concerned."
        "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
        Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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        • Ein Heldenleben
          Full Member
          • Apr 2014
          • 6963

          Originally posted by LHC View Post
          The generally unreliable Lebrecht reported a few weeks ago that the BBC had been all set to announce Henley, but had to change their mind and search for someone else. While I would generally take much of his gossip with a large pinch of salt, the story appears to have been corroborated by Opera Magazine. As Master Jacques reported yesterday on the ENO thread:

          "There's a very good editorial in today's Opera, highlighting the shifty, contradictory vacillations of ENO's CEO Stuart Murphy, and the rabid anti-operatic bigotry of Darren Henley of ACE. From what John Allison says, it seems that the appalling Henley was being lined up to replace Alan Davey (another ex-ACE toady) as Controller of Radio 3, but that his incompetence has become so apparent over the last couple of months that he has cooked his goose as far as that little career move is concerned."
          Henley is a consummate political player. His rise from obscure freelance radio journalist to one of the most powerful people in the Arts world is an object lesson on how to work a career. His sideways move into music education - writing govt reports on it was a stroke of genius. I’ve seen so many like him rise to the top.’ Nuff said. I’m sure he will continue to do an excellent job at ACE.

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          • LHC
            Full Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 1567

            Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
            Henley is a consummate political player. His rise from obscure freelance radio journalist to one of the most powerful people in the Arts world is an object lesson on how to work a career. His sideways move into music education - writing govt reports on it was a stroke of genius. I’ve seen so many like him rise to the top.’ Nuff said. I’m sure he will continue to do an excellent job at ACE.
            I’m sure he’ll regard ACE’s recent difficulties as but a minor perturbation in his career progression.
            "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. Fortunately in England, at any rate, education produces no effect whatsoever. If it did, it would prove a serious danger to the upper classes, and probably lead to acts of violence in Grosvenor Square."
            Lady Bracknell The importance of Being Earnest

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            • Ein Heldenleben
              Full Member
              • Apr 2014
              • 6963

              Originally posted by LHC View Post
              I’m sure he’ll regard ACE’s recent difficulties as but a minor perturbation in his career progression.
              Thing is the whole idea of ACE partly running music education through the music hubs looks like a disguised cut and it’s not a field in which they have much expertise. He badly misread the political signals when putting the boot into ENO so the shine is coming off a bit isn’t it ? When you have all the liberal luvvies (like me) and Nadine D stacking up against you …

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              • oddoneout
                Full Member
                • Nov 2015
                • 9308

                Originally posted by LHC View Post
                I’m sure he’ll regard ACE’s recent difficulties as but a minor perturbation in his career progression.
                They are not ACE's difficulties (it's not being shut down/defunded, more's the pity ), but those of the organisations on the other end of its decisions, and as such that's of no import to whoever is at the top of ACE(not any of the others in the bloated hierarchy probably). It is after all just carrying out government policy* in respect of the Arts in this country.

                *Take it as read that my views on that subject are not positive.

                Another take on the appointment


                Also just found this from 2016 - can't read more than the first couple of sentences but someone else will be able to https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/med...s-station.html
                If he still holds that view of creating space between CFM and R3 it might be positive for R3?
                Last edited by oddoneout; 13-01-23, 13:14. Reason: additional link

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30511

                  However, at 39 (took me a while to discover ) Jackson has to be the youngest ever Controller R3, doesn't he? By some margin? There are reasons why one might wish him to have been older in order to take over a classical music station, and to have had a less 'diverse' musical career - unless he plans a 'hands-off' managerial style. But in view of the foregoing, I do wonder what his 'strategic thinking' is likely to be for Radio 3.
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • Ein Heldenleben
                    Full Member
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 6963

                    Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                    They are not ACE's difficulties (it's not being shut down/defunded, more's the pity ), but those of the organisations on the other end of its decisions, and as such that's of no import to whoever is at the top of ACE(not any of the others in the bloated hierarchy probably). It is after all just carrying out government policy* in respect of the Arts in this country.

                    *Take it as read that my views on that subject are not positive.

                    Another take on the appointment
                    https://www.marlbank.net/posts/can-t...ering-template
                    I did a double take when I read Hans Koller (sic) was head of Trinity Laban ! What a difference a vowel makes .

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                    • Ein Heldenleben
                      Full Member
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 6963

                      Originally posted by french frank View Post
                      However, at 39 (took me a while to discover ) Jackson has to be the youngest ever Controller R3, doesn't he? By some margin? There are reasons why one might wish him to have been older in order to take over a classical music station, and to have had a less 'diverse' musical career - unless he plans a 'hands-off' managerial style. But in view of the foregoing, I do wonder what his 'strategic thinking' is likely to be for Radio 3.
                      It won’t be hands off . These guys don’t do hands off. I suspect marketing will be a strategic priority . Identifying and targeting growth areas with particularly ref to digital ( ie non linear download) , monetising the archive, deriving more commercial revenue from the bands and more partnership funding esp from ACE and Welsh / Scots governments etc . Not to mention reducing production costs .Radio 3 has avoided the 20 to 30 per cent cuts that other BBC services have gone through in the last 5-7 years . Not sure how long that can last .

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                      • Bryn
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 24688

                        Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
                        I did a double take when I read Hans Koller (sic) was head of Trinity Laban ! What a difference a vowel makes .
                        Ah, easily confused with the late feetball[sic] fanatic. certainly.

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                        • oddoneout
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2015
                          • 9308

                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          However, at 39 (took me a while to discover ) Jackson has to be the youngest ever Controller R3, doesn't he? By some margin? There are reasons why one might wish him to have been older in order to take over a classical music station, and to have had a less 'diverse' musical career - unless he plans a 'hands-off' managerial style. But in view of the foregoing, I do wonder what his 'strategic thinking' is likely to be for Radio 3.
                          But if attracting a younger audience to R3 is the aim doesn't having a younger Controller make sense? Looking at it from "their" POV you understand.
                          However I'm not convinced that age ( or perceived lack of) is necessarily such an important factor, it's what the person does in post that's the relevant bit. Greater age can also mean less inclination to change views or consider alternative approaches.

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                          • Nick Armstrong
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26575

                            Originally posted by french frank View Post
                            Well, who knows? I thought Alan Davey would be a good controller. I have immediate doubts about Mr Jackson's credentials, so I could be wrong again.
                            Originally posted by antongould View Post
                            ….. is he from Stockton …… ??????
                            ……. and where does he stand on French Fancies……??????

                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • Serial_Apologist
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 37855

                              Trinity Laban, under the excellent Hans Koller [sic], is one of the better educational facilities hosting a jazz course. If that has rubbed off in any way positively on Mr Jackson, we can entertain some positive hopes for the immediate future of Radio 3, I would think.

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                              • AuntDaisy
                                Host
                                • Jun 2018
                                • 1804

                                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                                However, at 39 (took me a while to discover ) Jackson has to be the youngest ever Controller R3, doesn't he? By some margin? There are reasons why one might wish him to have been older in order to take over a classical music station, and to have had a less 'diverse' musical career - unless he plans a 'hands-off' managerial style. But in view of the foregoing, I do wonder what his 'strategic thinking' is likely to be for Radio 3.
                                39 seems rather elderly to attract all those youngsters that R3 is desperate seeking - why not a teen influencer from TikTok?


                                BTW, the Third Programme had 3 controllers close to that age - 1946-48 George Barnes, ~42; 1948-52 Harman Grisewood, 42; 1959-67 PH Newby, ~41.

                                I enjoyed Humphrey Carpenter's comments in "The Envy of the World"... I wonder how he'd sum up Jackson's appointment?

                                "George Barnes had been allocated offices in the former Langham Hotel opposite Broadcasting House, which the BBC had taken over during the war. Whereas the Light Programme and Home Service were run by Controllers, he had been designated merely 'Head of Third Programme', and had been allocated only nine staff, seven of whom were clerks and secretaries." p. 14

                                "On 8 February 1948, Grisewood had been appointed Acting Controller, Third Programme, replacing George Barnes. (The title 'Controller' had been granted to the Third's head a short time earlier, bringing its status in line with the other networks.)" p. 76

                                "Grisewood was confirmed as the Third's new Controller on 18 March 1948. A magazine article written three years later describes him as:
                                short, eager, and [he] walks with a stoop. His large hazel eyes have a furrow between them, which probably comes from regarding the lesser-known works of seventeenth-century philosophy as light reading. He is an unorthodox dresser in the usually immaculate BBC, a colleague affectionately remarking that he wears period clothes, 'not only in style, but when they were made'.
                                He has a house in the country, where he takes his homework - the listener research figures and the two French plays he reads a week with an eye for translation. He rarely listens to the radio - 'except professionally'. He has a taste for good wine and cognac.
                                " p. 77

                                'Newby says that when he took over as Controller, Third Programme late in 1958, he found the staff 'in a state of shock' from the cuts, feeling that the BBC 'had no confidence in them'. He knew it was 'necessary to build up morale'. He was 'anxious to increase the audience, of course', and he told the Manchester Guardian that he was concerned to meet his listeners and 'sound out their views'." p. 191

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