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  • Dave2002
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    • Dec 2010
    • 17978

    Could lead affect musical ability?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-27067615 suggests lead might have an impact on crime figures.

    Could it affect other things too?
  • Pabmusic
    Full Member
    • May 2011
    • 5537

    #2
    Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-27067615 suggests lead might have an impact on crime figures.

    Could it affect other things too?
    Yes, of course. Thomas Midgeley (donchaluvim?) also invented chloroflourocarbons (CFCs - think ozone layer). He died in an unusual way, entangled in a Wallace-and-Gromit-style bed that strangled him.

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    • teamsaint
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 25177

      #3
      All very interesting stuff.

      It would be interesting to see similar research on white collar and high level financial crime, including dodgy Arms deals.

      Funny the way some things make the news agenda......
      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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      • rauschwerk
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 1479

        #4
        If you Google on 'Beethoven's hair' you will read evidence that Beethoven seems to have been a victim of lead poisoning, which probably caused many of his chronic ailments. No impairment of musical ability there, then!

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        • teamsaint
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          • Nov 2010
          • 25177

          #5
          And what about lead guitarists?
          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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          • aka Calum Da Jazbo
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 9173

            #6
            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
            And what about lead guitarists?

            no hope for them i am afraid
            According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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            • Flosshilde
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              • Nov 2010
              • 7988

              #7
              The use of lead for water pipes and other things in Imperial Rome has been suggested as one of the influences in the decline of Rome as a power. An interesting article - http://www.poweredbyosteons.org/2012...-skeletal.html - shows evidence of lead in extreme levels in skeletal remains.

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              • Dave2002
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                • Dec 2010
                • 17978

                #8
                Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                Yes, of course. Thomas Midgeley (donchaluvim?) also invented chloroflourocarbons (CFCs - think ozone layer). He died in an unusual way, entangled in a Wallace-and-Gromit-style bed that strangled him.
                So a really bad guy then!

                I suppose he meant well - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Midgley,_Jr.

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                • edashtav
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                  • Jul 2012
                  • 3667

                  #9
                  Originally posted by rauschwerk View Post
                  If you Google on 'Beethoven's hair' you will read evidence that Beethoven seems to have been a victim of lead poisoning, which probably caused many of his chronic ailments. No impairment of musical ability there, then!
                  Napoleon's hair shows high levels of arsenic.
                  Its oxide was a frequent remedy for V.D.
                  Three side effects have been noted:
                  Beautiful smooth skin and fine hair
                  Man boobs.
                  Erectile Dysfunction


                  Gives a twist to "Not tonight, Josephine."

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                  • Eine Alpensinfonie
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20565

                    #10
                    My childhood home in the 1950s and 60s had lead piping throughout and an asbestos solid fuel central heating boiler. OK, I had the second highest IQ in the class in primary school and was considered a musical genius.

                    After that, it all went downhill.

                    Who knows whether the lead had an effect?

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                    • Ariosto

                      #11
                      I knew someone who was a lead(er) and he definitely affected musical ability ...

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37361

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                        My childhood home in the 1950s and 60s had lead piping throughout and an asbestos solid fuel central heating boiler. OK, I had the second highest IQ in the class in primary school and was considered a musical genius.

                        After that, it all went downhill.

                        Who knows whether the lead had an effect?
                        With 75 + versions of the Alpine Symphony at home? No question!

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                        • teamsaint
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 25177

                          #13
                          Originally posted by edashtav View Post
                          Napoleon's hair shows high levels of arsenic.
                          Its oxide was a frequent remedy for V.D.
                          Three side effects have been noted:
                          Beautiful smooth skin and fine hair
                          Man boobs.
                          Erectile Dysfunction


                          Gives a twist to "Not tonight, Josephine."
                          No lead in the bonaparte pencil then?
                          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                          • edashtav
                            Full Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 3667

                            #14
                            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                            No lead in the bonaparte pencil then?
                            No, he had to settle for the booby prize

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                            • Thropplenoggin
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                              • Mar 2013
                              • 1587

                              #15
                              Originally posted by edashtav View Post
                              Napoleon's hair shows high levels of arsenic.
                              Its oxide was a frequent remedy for V.D.
                              Three side effects have been noted:
                              Beautiful smooth skin and fine hair
                              Man boobs.
                              Erectile Dysfunction

                              A distance cousin of Man Ray and Man Friday, perhaps.
                              It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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