Not Getting Married Today ...

[amateur51]

An ironic state of affairs - payback for having imposed our Western religious values on other peoples as part of colonialism, I would argue.

But homosexuality will have been present in African societies long before White missionaries arrived with their homophobic notions. Many current African leaders are trying to suggest that homosexuality is a White import too.

Bernadine Evaristo begs to differ ...

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/08/african-homosexuality-colonial-import-myth" />

[jean]

Your link doesn't work, ams.

[Serial_Apologist]

But homosexuality will have been present in African societies long before White missionaries arrived with their homophobic notions. Many current African leaders are trying to suggest that homosexuality is a White import too.

Exactly, ams!

[Serial_Apologist]

Your link doesn't work, ams.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/08/african-homosexuality-colonial-import-myth

That works jean

[Bryn]

Your link doesn't work, ams.

Try this one.

[James Wonnacott]

I'm not allowed to express my opinion on this subject in this so called free country.

[MrGongGong]

I'm not allowed to express my opinion on this subject in this so called free country.

I think you just have

The key bit is this IMV

But much more remarkable is that up and down our land there are straight married couples for whom their contract has not been in the least bit altered or debased. Quite simply, nothing has changed with the introduction of this revision of the marriage act. Such couples are no less married than they were and the family model has by no means disintegrated.

[Flosshilde]

I'm not allowed to express my opinion on this subject in this so called free country.

In what sense are you not allowed to express your opinion (which is, presumably, to disagree with the legislation)? There's no legislation to say that you can't; I don't think anyone's been imprisoned, or fined for doing so. The fact is that the legislation has been passed, some people are better of emotionally, mentally and legally, and nobody is any the worse for it.

[MrGongGong]

In what sense are you not allowed to express your opinion (which is, presumably, to disagree with the legislation)? There's no legislation to say that you can't; I don't think anyone's been imprisoned, or fined for doing so. The fact is that the legislation has been passed, some people are better of emotionally, mentally and legally, and nobody is any the worse for it.

[Flosshilde]

Actually I think my previous post was inapropriate (but I'm not going to delete it, because I don't think it's wrong) because I believe that shb's op was more to celebrate & mark the occasion than to start a discussion of the merits of the legislation (which has been discussed already).

[kea]

I'm not allowed to express my opinion on this subject in this so called free country.

Freedom is a bit of an illusion really—you can have laws as liberal and egalitarian as you want, but society will always have its taboos, and if you break them there will be negative consequences, though they don't come from any official source. It's not against the law to cheat on your wife for instance, but try doing it and see how much support you get.

[Serial_Apologist]

Freedom is a bit of an illusion really—you can have laws as liberal and egalitarian as you want, but society will always have its taboos, and if you break them there will be negative consequences, though they don't come from any official source. It's not against the law to cheat on your wife for instance, but try doing it and see how much support you get.

Still, it was a strange thing for James to write. A bit of a wolf cry, imo.

[MrGongGong]

Still, it was a strange thing for James to write. A bit of a wolf cry, imo.

I think less of a wolf more like this

http://sounds.bl.uk/Environment/Listen-to-Nature/022M-LISTNAT00110-0001V0#_

(before being smoked that is )

[Ferretfancy]

Freedom is a bit of an illusion really—you can have laws as liberal and egalitarian as you want, but society will always have its taboos, and if you break them there will be negative consequences, though they don't come from any official source. It's not against the law to cheat on your wife for instance, but try doing it and see how much support you get.

"To the man-in-the street
Who, I'm sorry to say, is
A keen observer of Life,
The word intellectual suggests straight away
A man who's untrue to his wife "

WH Auden

[amateur51]

I think less of a wolf more like this

http://sounds.bl.uk/Environment/Listen-to-Nature/022M-LISTNAT00110-0001V0#_

(before being smoked that is )

I had no idea that the haddock was into motor-cycle scrambling