Why?

[DracoM]

I listen a lot to the Finnish station http://yle.fi/radio/yleklassinen/suora/

I have learnt more about a huge variety of genres, composers, performances than I ever do on R3. And this goes for a number of other stations.
As soon as I spend a morning working and listening to YLE.fi, my palate is refreshed by the often very unexpected.
Like the old R3 'blind tasting' progs.

e.g. Am listening now to a recording of a live Finnish Radio concert with Ginastera Harp Concerto. Never knew one such was written. Very attractive piece.

Raises the question as to WHY, with the BBC's colossal resources, is R3 so unbelievably uninventive?

[french frank]

Raises the question as to WHY, with the BBC's colossal resources, is R3 so unbelievably uninventive?

If you want a serious answer, I think it's because it has to conform to a BBC 'brand' which, for a service like Radio 3 is a very effective strait jacket.

[DracoM]

I.e self-imposed blindnesses?
Old story: as soon as you travel, you see your own nation / environment differently? Erm.....'something broadens the mind...' Where have I heard that before?

The BBC proclaims its richness, loudly convinces its listeners of the richness of the diet, but by a click of a mouse, you discover its disempowering instincts.

Depressing. Or am I just waking up to a truth universally acknowledged?

[french frank]

Mmmm … well, I'd say that the BBC is equally conformist by instinct. It employs people to take the corporation forward in the way that every other big corporation is being taken forward, everyone thinking outside the box, being proactive - that kind of exciting new thinking.

[DracoM]

WIA lives!

Well, this Finnish station is now playing a lovely largo chamber piece by Charles Ives, utterly unlike anything of his I've ever heard. Followed by a pretty energetic Barber organ and orchestra piece - Toccata Festiva. Never heard either.

See what I mean? In one morning, a whole string of pieces that refresh the taste buds. Can't imagine Rob Cowan getting the chance to play either.

Hey ho.

[Bryn]

I listen a lot to the Finnish station http://yle.fi/radio/yleklassinen/suora/

I have learnt more about a huge variety of genres, composers, performances than I ever do on R3. And this goes for a number of other stations.
As soon as I spend a morning working and listening to YLE.fi, my palate is refreshed by the often very unexpected.
Like the old R3 'blind tasting' progs.

e.g. Am listening now to a recording of a live Finnish Radio concert with Ginastera Harp Concerto. Never knew one such was written. Very attractive piece.

Raises the question as to WHY, with the BBC's colossal resources, is R3 so unbelievably uninventive?

I wonder how often the Ginestera Harp Concerto gets an outing there. I think it's a little over 7 years since it was on Afternoon on 3:

Ginastera: Harp Concerto
Catrin Finch (harp)
BBC National Orchestra of Wales
Josep Cabelle-Domenech (conductor)

It will get another outing next April:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/events/e4xfxj

[Hornspieler]

I wonder how often the Ginestera Harp Concerto gets an outing there. I think it's a little over 7 years since it was on Afternoon on 3:

Ginastera: Harp Concerto
Catrin Finch (harp)
BBC National Orchestra of Wales
Josep Cabelle-Domenech (conductor)

It will get another outing next April:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/events/e4xfxj

A smashing work.

I remember the famous Harpist Nicanor Zabaleta playing this with the BSO.

He then insisted on playing the 2nd harp part in the second half of the concert. Berlioz Symphony Fantastic as I recall.

[DracoM]

Well, glad I am joining the band of devotees, if a tad late!
As said, pity it had to come via an internet station rather than our own much loved R3.
But that might be a comment on how relatively infrequent my listening to R3 has very gradually become for a variety of reasons?

[EnemyoftheStoat]

Followed by a pretty energetic Barber organ and orchestra piece - Toccata Festiva. Never heard either.

... Can't imagine Rob Cowan getting the chance to play either.

Well, the Barber (cracking piece!) did get an outing at the Last Night in 2004.

[Pulcinella]

I listen a lot to the Finnish station http://yle.fi/radio/yleklassinen/suora/

Thanks for the pointer, Draco.
Now stored as a station on my trusty Roberts WM202.

[doversoul1]

Palmér, Catharina (b.1963): Min fackla, lys ... (My Torch, Shine ...)
Gjeilo, Ola (b.1978): Northern Lights
Palmér, Catharina (b.1963): Kissrain, Watersleep
Sandström, Jan (b.1954): Calculat Deus (world premiere)
Norgard, Per (b. 1932): Wie ein Kind: 'Wilgen Lied'; 'Frühlings-Lied'; 'Trauermarsch mit einem Unglücksfall'
Verdelot, Philippe (c.1485-c.1532): Italia Mia
Hammerschmidt, Andreas (1611/12-1675): Suite in G minor/G major for winds - from the collection 'Ester Fleiß'
Paderewski, Ignacy Jan [1860-1941]: Menuet celebre in G major (Op.14 No.1) "à l'antique"
Stoyanov, Vesselin (1902-1969): Rhapsody (1956)
Förster, Kaspar (1616-1673): Sonata a 7
Carissimi, Giacomo (1605-1674): Dixit Dominus for 5 voices & basso continuo
Vitols, Jazeps (1863-1948) : Romance
Diepenbrock, Alphons (1862-1921): Puisque l'aube grandit (song)
Pergolesi, Giovanni Battista (1710-1736): Concerto for violin, strings and continuo in B flat (yes, that Pergolesi but not Stabat Mater)
Raitio, Väinö (1891-1945): Joutsenet (Swans) (Op.15)

From Throught th Night last Monday

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05wyqng

Not bad in one programme (albeit its being 6 hours)?

I have no end of objections to the way in which the BBC treats Radio 3 but the station itself still offers us (me) a whole lot of interesting music. It’s often the dire presentation and poor organisation that let many excellent music / programmes down. And yes, Why does BBC let that happen?

[Lordwanswell]

R3 obsessions

Yes, I am feeling very much the same about R3. It seems obsessed by certain composers: Berlioz, Debussy, Janacek to name but three. I have lost count of how many times I have heard tired old warhorses like "Le Corsair" and "La Mer" on BBC breakfast. As well as that they feel the need to have a fair number of way out contributions by Reich et al. In contrast, I find a number of the US classical stations have a far wider range of mainstream classical music than R3 and I also hear a lot more music by English composers there.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

La Mer on "BBC Breakfast"? When was that?

[Bryn]

La Mer on "BBC Breakfast"? When was that?

'twould make a nice change for the lamer stuff we tend to get.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

'twould make a nice change for the lamer stuff we tend to get.

'twould, 'twould.