Why don't jazzers record pop tunes any more?

[Serial_Apologist]

I am CERTAIN. Thats why I will never buy a Bluenote album because....Its been my motto since I was 14 and first heard Monty Sunshine. He didnt need heroin to sound like Bird. OK maybe a beer or two.

Jamie Cullum doesn't use and he's a jazz great. As is Carol King. Everytime I hear her in a hotel lift I think "Fek Off Ella....this stuff is THE deep"

BN.

[MrGongGong]

Trust that this answers your question.

No , not really
because you are saying things like

I would like to add another dimension to this topic and that is that black popular music is far superior to white artists and the music of Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson, etc easily converts in to jazz and will continue to do so because of it's quality. .

which is a statement of opinion presented as a fact
and given that you say you don't listen to much pop music you seem to know lots about how rubbish it is
and

modern pop has little to do with great songwriting or even music in some cases.

??? What on earth does this mean ?
can you explain how it has little to do with music ?

(you don't have to write too many words either )

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

No , not really
because you are saying things like


which is a statement of opinion presented as a fact
and given that you say you don't listen to much pop music you seem to know lots about how rubbish it is
and



??? What on earth does this mean ?
can you explain how it has little to do with music ?

(you don't have to write too many words either )

My My Mr. Gong! Are you still marking first year 'Ology essays at Totnes Polytechic?

Lighten up, its "off with the old and on with the new" soon. Still time to lever that fav Fleetwood Mac cassette into the player at your street party...and make sure no-one is throwing up over your roses.

BN.

[burning dog]

In Fleetwood you can own an Apple Mac but can't buy a Big Mac. You would be well advised to carry around a a plastic Mac. Whisky Mac is still de rigueur there but Bebop never has been.

This post qualifies for an Arts Council grant due to British jazz reference.

[MrGongGong]

My My Mr. Gong! Are you still marking first year 'Ology essays at Totnes Polytechic?
.

Ian gets a 2:2 at most

[burning dog]

Ian gets a 2:2 at most

2:2

Back on topic now

[Serial_Apologist]

In Fleetwood you can own an Apple Mac but can't buy a Big Mac. You would be well advised to carry around a a plastic Mac. Whisky Mac is still de rigueur there but Bebop never has been.

This post qualifies for an Arts Council grant due to British jazz reference.

Wot no Flasher Mac??

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

Ian gets a 2:2 at most

Fair enough Prof Gong! Have a good New Year and 2014!p

BN.

Although I must admit I like and admire Ian's arguments a lot more than I used to. Must be all this Danish Schnapps....

BEST to ALL.

[burning dog]

Some stuff on here about Soul, R&B, Big Bands, Soul and R&B Big Bands and jazzers playing with them.

http://tedpanken.wordpress.com/2011/10/11/a-wkcr-interview-with-lester-bowie-r-i-p-and-don-moye-and-lester-and-malachi-favors-on-lesters-70th-birthday/

[burning dog]

Wot no Flasher Mac??

You get a better class of flasher there than in Blackpool, but not quite up to Royal Lytham standard

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

Theres a very good interview with David Blinney on Utube about the stresses and reality of playing jazz in the current "financial epoch/meltdown".

Worth cking out.


BN.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

let's face it; life as we know it has always been over ....................

[Tenor Freak]

Fine - just shows how easy it is to take a good tune and play around with it by competent musicians for whom it is their trade (do they write their own stuff and is it good?) The clever guy was the one who wrote the original and the collaborators who created the original track. It could be argued there are certain things, albums, which are best left as they are Pet sounds is one. Another is Carole King's Tapestry - beautifully arranged and performed - and has not been improved on by other's attempts.

This is a troll, right? It may be easy to play a literal copy of the original song, less so I would suggest to do what Lloyd and his group did on that performance I linked to, where they took fragments of Brian Wilson's song and spun out something new. There would be no point in copying Pet Sounds, Tapestry, Rumours, or Never Mind The Bollocks for that matter, note for note.

As SA says, the composer in his castle, the improviser at his gate...keep those PRS royalty cheques coming in...aye, that's smart alright

[Tenor Freak]

2:2

Back on topic now

Nice, though I don't think it adds much to the original Scritti Politti version. I love this song which is why I have both 7 and 12 inch vinyl as well as a copy of Cupid &Psyche '85. If only Miles was in a better physical state when he made this - at his peak he would've transformed it.

[burning dog]

Nice, though I don't think it adds much to the original Scritti Politti version. I love this song which is why I have both 7 and 12 inch vinyl as well as a copy of Cupid &Psyche '85. If only Miles was in a better physical state when he made this - at his peak he would've transformed it.

I agree, Miles seems to play weakly on many of the studio 80's tracks, but well on the Live stuff. though I suppose it's the better live concerts that are remembered.