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  • Quarky
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    • Dec 2010
    • 2655

    #31
    There seems to be several issues in this thread.
    Generally, I am on the side of Jazz, but Britten's music is a separate issue - apart from supplanting the jazz programmes this weekend - and Hear and Now, World Routes and EMS.
    Britten was an extremely clever and skilled composer, and that is why I rate him above Elgar, RVW,etc.
    But like Ian, I have difficulties with his personality, and his social background, which often pervades his choice of subject of composition, and choice of musical companions. Certainly a sore point with me is lack of compositions for female voice.
    But whose fault is that? Mine or Britten's? Quite possibly if Britten / myself had been French , German (Henze!) or American, I would have overlooked these personality issues. Britten's problem, if there is one, is that he is too close to home.
    Last edited by Quarky; 30-11-13, 11:22.

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    • aka Calum Da Jazbo
      Late member
      • Nov 2010
      • 9173

      #32
      Jazz on 3 is very interesting tonight well worth catching especially for embroidery fans .... [not being ironic or funny] see:





      Jaimeo Brown Trio are deeply into their history and very serious and make interesting if somewhat indulgent music...
      According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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      • gurnemanz
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        • Nov 2010
        • 7379

        #33
        I'm not a proper jazz buff (although I did once see Tubby Hayes at the Bull in Barnes) but I do enjoy tuning in from time to time, and my cousin in Croydon likes to email me when they play one of his requests.

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        • aka Calum Da Jazbo
          Late member
          • Nov 2010
          • 9173

          #34
          ah the Bull in Barnes! wish i'd been there on this night:

          According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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          • Quarky
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 2655

            #35
            Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
            Jazz on 3 is very interesting tonight well worth catching especially for embroidery fans .... [not being ironic or funny] see:





            Jaimeo Brown Trio are deeply into their history and very serious and make interesting if somewhat indulgent music...
            XOYO Club in Old Street a new one on me. It does not seem to host Jazz, in general.

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            • Hornspieler
              Late Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 1847

              #36
              Originally posted by burning dog View Post
              I'm not against the idea of "composerthons" but surely there are enough standard classical programmes to contain them?
              I'm lukewarm about Britten rather than frigid or hostile, and I believe he is worthy of the recognition given, but not the scheduling.
              My feelings exactly. But I would feel exactly the same about Bach, Mozart, Haydn, Bax, Walton, Bliss, Rachmaninoff, Duke Ellington or anyone else.
              Be thankful that it wasn't Harrison B--------le

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              • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                Late member
                • Nov 2010
                • 9173

                #37
                Be thankful that it wasn't Harrison B--------le
                i am i am
                According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                  Late member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 9173

                  #38
                  XOYO:

                  We’re proud to be an aspirational platform for London’s clubbers.

                  Shoreditch .... not a three minute walk from Somethin Else!
                  According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                  • charles t
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 592

                    #39
                    I would think a heightened attention to Brit composers would be on the November 12th passing of John Tavener...a maverick throwback to the Middle Ages (at times)...but I missed the news of same - amidst of what has been ailing Calum.

                    This little book was within arm's reach as I type...

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                    Last edited by charles t; 28-11-13, 17:47.

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                    • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                      Late member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 9173

                      #40
                      greetings Chas T from across the chilly oceans ...speaking to No 1 on skype he was wearing thick shirt and vest, is it chill in California?

                      must say i agree with your preferences as to Brit composers

                      i have trouble with Brs; Britten Braxton Bruckner but not Brahms ....
                      According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                      • Tom Audustus

                        #41
                        Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
                        nope rather frigid is not how i would describe a vollcanic antipathy to the whole Britten thing but most especially all the opera and vocal stuff that a certain Mr Moore described so well

                        Yes, but to really enjoy that Duddley Moore parody you must know the Serenade for Tenor Horn and Strings.

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                        • Flosshilde
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7988

                          #42
                          True, & the same goes for the parodist - a successful parody arises from an understanding &, often, a regard for the thing being parodied.

                          Is this a parody? -

                          Jazz musician Bo Dudley (Dudley Moore) explains to the presenter (Peter Cook) what the Harlem song he is playing on the piano means but does he really?This s...

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                          • MrGongGong
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 18357

                            #43
                            Possibly Flossie
                            this IS but maybe not intentionally ?
                            (I should add "allegedly" )

                            Pie Jesu, qui tollis peccata mundi, dona eis requiem sempiternam (aeternam).Merciful Jesus, that takes away the sin of the world, grant them (the dead) etern...


                            (not for the squeamish )

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                            • Quarky
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 2655

                              #44
                              Finding this Britten business fascinating - it seems there is a case for writing Britten off completely as a total failure who might have been more gainfully employed sewing mailbags:



                              Myself, I'm just a humble Jazzer, who tends to follow instincts and feelings when assessing music - how simplistic!

                              The picture I have of BB, which comes out in this video link, is that of a childhood musical prodigy, who was saddled immediately, by a musical establishment desperately seeking a genius to rival Mozart, etc, with an image to strive for, and a very strict work regime throughout his childhood and youth in order to produce the goods. His personality seems to be locked into this golden growing-up period.

                              But having achieved a 20th Century musical genius, the musical establishment was now free to trumpet his music to the world in general The Britten Composerthon, and the missing Jazz programmes, are the latest manifestaton of this.

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                              • MrGongGong
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 18357

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Oddball View Post
                                The picture I have of BB, which comes out in this video link,
                                ...........will get you run out of Snape by locals with pitchforks and burning torches

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