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  • Rcartes
    Full Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 194

    Hottest jazz ever recorded?

    Alyn Shipton has a new idea for JRR: nominate the hottest jazz ever recorded. In the interests of getting it started, here are some suggestions:

    1. St Louis Blues - the 1940s Albert Ammons small group with his son Gene; the contrast between the two-beat intro and the 4/4 sections is amazing. I never thought that Ammons Sr needed a rhythm section, but this one really belts things along

    2. I would do anything for you - Billy Banks' Rythmmakers; Banks himself is a bit of a letdown but Red Allen and Pee Wee Russell (on tenor, yet)

    3. Hot mallets - Lionel Hampton; if there's anything, anywhere, that swings more than Hamp's solo, I've yet to hear it - though No 4 runs it close.

    4. Blowin' up a storm by Woody Herman's First herd.

    I suppose it doesn't really apply to bop and after, but if it does, I'd nominate Bud Powell's trio version of Bud's Bubble: the way he tears into the them right from the start is phenomenal and it just goes on from there.
  • RayBurns

    #2
    Does Brotzmann's 'Machine Gun' qualify?

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    • Rcartes
      Full Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 194

      #3
      Originally posted by RayBurns View Post
      Does Brotzmann's 'Machine Gun' qualify?
      I wouldn't know; I've only ever been able to last about 5 seconds with Brotzmann's stuff...

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      • Ian Thumwood
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 4225

        #4
        I love the idea of there being a jazz record that is "the hottest ever" and whilst, on the face of things, this would tend to limited the choice to records made before 1945, I really think that it is not the case.

        I totally agree with the selection of "Hat Mallets" which is a sensational record. Everything about it is sensational from Dizzy's wonderfully sly trumpet to the chugging rhythm section. A few other selections might include:-

        1. King Oliver ~ "Wa, wa wa."

        2. Bennie Moten ~ "Blue Room."

        3. Count Basie - "Ev'ry tub."

        4. Jay McShann ~ "The Jumpin' Blues."

        I will have to see if I can think of any more.

        As far as the hottest jazz album, what about Bobby Previte's blistering "Too close to the pole?"

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        • Quarky
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 2672

          #5
          Manteca - Gillespie Big Band - was always the hottest piece I could digest.

          But hot jazz really refers to the Louis Armstrong era? I wouldn't say 'Trane was hot - just white hot...

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          • aka Calum Da Jazbo
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 9173

            #6
            yep hot is pre bop but then what about the ineffably anarchic spirit of the jazz art eh .... hot as in searing soloing?

            Russian Lullaby John Coltrane [Soultrane]
            Man I Love Coleman Hawkins [1943]
            I Got Rhythm Don Byas & Slam Stewart
            Lester Leaps In Kansas City 7
            Blowin Up A Breeze Chu Berry [ok you pick one!]

            well that is the tenor sax for now; trumpets next?


            what larks!
            According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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            • MrGongGong
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 18357

              #7
              Originally posted by RayBurns View Post
              Does Brotzmann's 'Machine Gun' qualify?
              Top tune (you humm and i'll whistle )

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              • Dave2002
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 18035

                #8
                Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                Top tune (you humm and i'll whistle )
                There's a melodic dialogue about 10 minutes in - http://open.spotify.com/track/5gUNOLBKYq2E20V42G9v07

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                • Dave2002
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 18035

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ian Thumwood View Post
                  I love the idea of there being a jazz record that is "the hottest ever" and whilst, on the face of things, this would tend to limited the choice to records made before 1945, I really think that it is not the case.
                  Certainly after 1945 - Ellington - Such Sweet Thunder. Perhaps not the hottest, but getting warm - http://open.spotify.com/track/0d3BS1jx0YsysxoE2nHi43

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                  • burning dog
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 1511

                    #10
                    Isn't Mingus at Antibes "Hot" ?

                    After the "theme" Machine Gun isnt as hard going as I remembered it.

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                    • Boilk
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 976

                      #11
                      Can I nominate Allan Holdsworth's Water on the Brain, Part 2 ?

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                      • Padraig
                        Full Member
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 4250

                        #12
                        Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


                        Running Wild, Bechet, Wild Bill et al.

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                        • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                          Late member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 9173

                          #13
                          singers ... ?

                          The Lonesome Road Sister Rosetta Tharpe
                          I'm Wild About That Thing Bessie Smith
                          The Viper's Drag Cab Calloway
                          Shake Rattle & Roll Big Joe Turmer
                          Rhythm In A Riff Billy Eckstine
                          According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                          • charles t
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 592

                            #14
                            The key word being hot here's Brotz, he of The Scorched Earth style - sounding grounded-in de blues (barely) at the 2:25" mark...



                            Last edited by charles t; 22-10-13, 01:23.

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                            • gradus
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 5622

                              #15
                              Caldonia, Woody Herman, never heard a version that was less than piping hot.

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