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  • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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    • Dec 2010
    • 4323

    "Jazz is anti British"...Paul Dacre

    In tomorrow's Daily Mail, Paul Dacre will argue that jazz is an evil semi musical form introduced into Britain in 1917 by Trotsky (who once led a hot swing band with Rosa Luxemburg) in an attempt to corrupt the nation's patriotic youth and establish a Workers Jazz State.

    Why else was Eric Hobsbawn and his other Oxbridge comrades so keen on it? Why did Margaret Thatcher scream "just play the tune" at "Red" Kenny Ball? Why did the leftist BBC have a Jazz Club? Was Steve Race a secret Stalinist? Did Ralf Miliband own Kind of Blue? Did Dave Brubeck lead the Miners Strike?

    Read the Mail tomorrow and gasp!
  • MrGongGong
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    • Nov 2010
    • 18357

    #2
    It's not just "Jazz" we have to worry about is it ?


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    Nothing like misquoting an intelligent comment to get them going (how I miss Simon )

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    • Stephen Smith

      #3
      A little off topic, but I would draw attention to the "Daily Mail-o-matic" auto headline composer.
      [URL="http://www.qwghlm.co.uk/toys/dailymail/"]

      Also, on the World at one there was a glimpse of the content of this week's Radio 4 "Profile" (Saturday, 7pm) on the elusive (in the sense that he is reluctant to the face the camera or the microphone) Mr Dacre.

      I haven't bought newspapers for years now - Radio 4 and TV suffice. I do buy Private Eye - on the basis that the news and info they don't want us to know, is the content worth paying for.....Dacre gets plenty on mentions in the Eye.

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      • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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        • Dec 2010
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        #4
        Originally posted by Stephen Smith View Post
        A little off topic, but I would draw attention to the "Daily Mail-o-matic" auto headline composer.
        [URL="http://www.qwghlm.co.uk/toys/dailymail/"]

        Also, on the World at one there was a glimpse of the content of this week's Radio 4 "Profile" (Saturday, 7pm) on the elusive (in the sense that he is reluctant to the face the camera or the microphone) Mr Dacre.

        I haven't bought newspapers for years now - Radio 4 and TV suffice. I do buy Private Eye - on the basis that the news and info they don't want us to know, is the content worth paying for.....Dacre gets plenty on mentions in the Eye.
        Yes, the Eye is often a source of "Family Values" Dacre's delightful language to his cheery staff as they go about their ethical business. Bully for him. When Michael Foot died, the Mail sent reporters around old people's homes looking for dimly remembered dirt. My father used to say if he wiped his posterior with the Mail, then he'd have to flush his posterior down the toilet. But then he hated England too.

        BN.

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        • Tenor Freak
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          • Dec 2010
          • 1064

          #5
          No doubt he loves Wagner which kind of fits the profile if you see what I mean.
          all words are trains for moving past what really has no name

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          • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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            • Dec 2010
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            #6
            On Desert Island Discs, Wagner, Shostakovich and....Oscar Peterson! ( Night Train). Just right to play VERY loud when you hurl abuse at the hacks.

            BN.

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            • burning dog
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              • Dec 2010
              • 1511

              #7
              Wot I rote in my diary in 1938 about how I "loved" Britain
              My dear Fuhrer everyone in England is profoundly moved by the bloodless solution to the Czechoslovakian problem. People not so much concerned with territorial readjustment as with dread of another war with its accompanying bloodbath. Frederick the Great was a great popular figure. I salute your Excellency’s star, which rises higher and higher.

              Beat that Mr Ralph!!

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              • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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                • Dec 2010
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                #8
                Originally posted by burning dog View Post
                Wot I rote in my diary in 1938 about how I "loved" Britain
                My dear Fuhrer everyone in England is profoundly moved by the bloodless solution to the Czechoslovakian problem. People not so much concerned with territorial readjustment as with dread of another war with its accompanying bloodbath. Frederick the Great was a great popular figure. I salute your Excellency’s star, which rises higher and higher.

                Beat that Mr Ralph!!
                It makes you almost proud to be (non) British! Welsh in my case.

                Paul Dacre's father spent his active war service as the Show Business hack for the Daily Express. "It was hell dodging those falling curtains...and Dame Vera's armpits!". And today Paul is a refugee, forced to hide out in a bleak hotel room as Channel 4 demands a ten second soundbite. "My Hero!'...Mad Mel.

                BN.

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                • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                  Late member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 9173

                  #9
                  i have some sympathy fro Mr Dacre being entirely familiar with unexpected hissy fits, inability to control my temper, feeling very faint, head swirls and so on .... and losing track of time, place, familiar faces etc .... and making an absolute and unforgiveable arse of myself at meetings with public officials ... really awful, he has my deepest sympathy ...

                  the emerging definition of Brit is young, multicultural and urban .... English, Welsh Scottish &c are uncool, old fashioned , in a word square .... the cool Britannia stuff is dead too .... Brit is now ....
                  According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                  • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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                    • Dec 2010
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
                    i have some sympathy fro Mr Dacre being entirely familiar with unexpected hissy fits, inability to control my temper, feeling very faint, head swirls and so on .... and losing track of time, place, familiar faces etc .... and making an absolute and unforgiveable arse of myself at meetings with public officials ... really awful, he has my deepest sympathy ...

                    the emerging definition of Brit is young, multicultural and urban .... English, Welsh Scottish &c are uncool, old fashioned , in a word square .... the cool Britannia stuff is dead too .... Brit is now ....
                    Today on JRR....

                    The Paul Dacre Dektette...White Cliffs of Dover c/w The Man I Hate. HMV Pop1959.

                    Paul Dacre banjo, Dik Littlejohn cornet, Vocals, Mad Mel and her Mellettes.

                    BN.

                    On a more positive note, I've just picked up a eight album Bluenote boxset of early Lou Donaldson for two English pounds in my local charity shop. Some lovely stuff...surprised me. And if Lou aint alwayz awake, Bill Hardman et Horace Parlan certainly are.
                    Last edited by BLUESNIK'S REVOX; 05-10-13, 13:14.

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                    • Ian Thumwood
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                      • Dec 2010
                      • 4255

                      #11
                      I'm not really a fan of Ed Milliband who I think is unelectable - even when considering the competition he has to face with Cameron, the ridiculous Nigel Farage and the more credible if wholly untrustworthy and slippery Nick Clegg. Whilst I agree with his stance against the Mail, I think the only benefit the conflict between Milliband and the paper has had is to deflect the media attention from the Conservative conferetce. No one can disagree that the paper was guilly of clumsy and simplistic journalism in attacking the late Ralph Milliband but this is a paper that really should have been reigned in ages ago. Whilst I admit to signing Alistair Campbell's petition to force a debate with Paul Dacre, ths remit should have been to close the paper down as was the case with the New of the World. You would normally have to defend press freedom but I think his comes with a respoonsility and the Mail has over-reached itself so that it no longer fulfils a serious, journalistic function.

                      Milliband is unfortunate no only to speak with a lisp which diminishes his authority but also has the misfortune to look like something created by Aardman animations. He brands himself a socialist yet have always lived a privilged life and is as unconnected with the British people as any other politician. The British very much like to consider themselves as living in a democracy but this is a fallacy as the likes of Millband and Cameron have lived livs so removed from ordinary people that they cannot be said to truly represent the people. I would also say that the influence of the likes of Murdoch and the Mail is too strong and negates any democracy process that remains. Both labour and the conservatives receive donations from numerous companies and this will have to be even more likely now that Labour wishes to divorce itself from the trade unions as opposed to actually doing something to ensure that combinations work more democratically by making it a legal obligation for every employee to belong to a union and obliged to take part in any ballots.

                      However, I think the Milliband isn't quite as much of the victim as he would consider himself to have been. His treatment of his more capable brother was very poor and I think his postering of leaning more towards the Left has been exposed as hypocritical in the treatment he has mete out to the trade unions. It is also disappoininting that some critics have latched on to the fact that Milliband is jewish and have accused the Mail of being anti-semetic. This is a topic that I find very annoying as I don't think this is at all the case and it is probably more likely that the papers such as the Mail are probably more pro-Israel than the more serious publications. I would, however, liked to read a more robust account of Milliband's jewishness and how this manifests itself in both supporting Israel and also reflecting the increasing importance of Islam in British society and in world affairs. Millband has kept very quiet about this. Given the volitile situation in the Middle East, Iran , Somalia as well as home grown Radicals, I wonder if it would be salient to have a jewish Prime Minister or even Foriegn Secretary as it would play in to the hands of potential adversaries. I would suggest that cities like Bradford or Leicester are unlikely to have the ear of Millband.

                      All in all, I think the Mail is a terrible paper but it isn't unique in it's faults and I am as equally against the "worthy" Guardian or papers like the Express which seems to write more about the weather or cures for all ailments as opposed to serious, political debate. The whole system is pretty rotten.

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                      • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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                        • Dec 2010
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                        #12
                        "All that is solid melts into air" ~ Marx/Engels, Manifesto1848.

                        The older I get, 67 this month, me and Dave Holland...Oh No!... the more I see the truth of this. Those things that once seemed immovable...Apartheid, the Berlin Wall, the Soviet Union are all gone. And so too will western neo liberalism and its media pimps and chancers, "left" and right. A change IS going to come...and come hard. Its not going to be pretty.

                        BN.
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                        • eighthobstruction
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 6452

                          #13
                          Conference Time
                          When Dacres job is easy
                          Parties are jumping
                          And the dudgeon is high
                          Daddies not 'street'
                          Neither was he good looking
                          So Hush....just hush....and keep cutting up the pie.....
                          bong ching

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                          • burning dog
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                            • Dec 2010
                            • 1511

                            #14
                            Ed Miliband won't become PM. Comprehensive school chap!

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                            • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                              Late member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 9173

                              #15
                              ... this brings to mind the opening scene in The Audience when Her Maj consoles J Major PM on his having only three O levels with the comment that she has none and ..."Look what good hands the country is in!"

                              never saw Dacre down the Flamingo!

                              According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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