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  • Quarky
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 2672

    #16
    Originally posted by Bryn View Post
    But what about when they are relaying NY Met live, and the clock changes don't tally? That, and Wagner length productions are what has been the source of the problem in the past, and that is unlikely to change, surely?
    As I understand matters, it has always been technically possible for BBC to delay Met Broadcasts for an hour or two. This is what Radio France does, which also broadcasts the Met Operas.

    But whether the BBC intends to do this, is another matter entirely.

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    • Bryn
      Banned
      • Mar 2007
      • 24688

      #17
      Originally posted by Oddball View Post
      As I understand matters, it has always been technically possible for BBC to delay Met Broadcasts for an hour or two. This is what Radio France does, which also broadcasts the Met Operas.

      But whether the BBC intends to do this, is another matter entirely.
      Hmm. Just so long as Hear and Now is safe!

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      • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 4323

        #18
        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
        Hmm. Just so long as Hear and Now is safe!
        I cant see what the gain is as its highly unlikely that the opera will ever be delayed. Tony Hall didn't get where he is by doing that to the constituency. What it means is tbat R3 now has its jazz, except Jo3, in row. Like ducks. Sitting.

        BN.

        Deckchairs are being re-arranged on the Titanic as a rolling stone wasn't built in a day.
        Last edited by BLUESNIK'S REVOX; 13-09-13, 15:49.

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        • Andrew Slater
          Full Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 1799

          #19
          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
          Hmm. Just so long as Hear and Now is safe!
          Quite safe - extended to two hours. The full press release is here.

          Opera moves to Monday with occasional Saturday broadcasts, so should be less of a hindrance.

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          • Tenor Freak
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 1064

            #20
            Originally posted by andrew slater View Post
            quite safe - extended to two hours. The full press release is here.

            Opera moves to monday with occasional saturday broadcasts, so should be less of a hindrance.
            eccellente
            all words are trains for moving past what really has no name

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            • Quarky
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              • Dec 2010
              • 2672

              #21
              Originally posted by Andrew Slater View Post
              Quite safe - extended to two hours. The full press release is here.

              Opera moves to Monday with occasional Saturday broadcasts, so should be less of a hindrance.
              Totally amazing. I had assumed Opera was a sacred cow that could not be touched. Recall in the '60s, Opera was on Sunday afternoons. But banished to Monday? What has gone on in R3 management?

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30534

                #22
                Originally posted by Oddball View Post
                Totally amazing. I had assumed Opera was a sacred cow that could not be touched. Recall in the '60s, Opera was on Sunday afternoons. But banished to Monday? What has gone on in R3 management?
                They don't seem to be taking Live from the Met at all. Changes due to big budget reduction, they say, but I thought Live from the Met was quite cheap, being syndicated.

                Much of what they seem to say seems quite dodgy, but jazz fans seem to be slightly better off than some.
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • Beef Oven!
                  Ex-member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 18147

                  #23
                  Originally posted by french frank View Post
                  They don't seem to be taking Live from the Met at all. Changes due to big budget reduction, they say, but I thought Live from the Met was quite cheap, being syndicated.

                  Much of what they seem to say seems quite dodgy, but jazz fans seem to be slightly better off than some.
                  I haven't tuned into Live From The Met for a few years (my substantial loss), but I'd just taken it for granted that it would always be there. What has happened?

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                  • Andrew Slater
                    Full Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 1799

                    #24
                    One by-product of the changes will be that the disruption to the established schedule during the Proms will be minimised. I wonder if this was a consideration?

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                    • MarkG
                      Full Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 119

                      #25
                      Good news to keep JRR in a regular slot. Although it looks like a whole two and a half of hours of (mostly) mainstream jazz.

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                      • Quarky
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 2672

                        #26
                        Originally posted by MarkG View Post
                        Good news to keep JRR in a regular slot. Although it looks like a whole two and a half of hours of (mostly) mainstream jazz.
                        There has been plenty of contemporary Jazz on JLU over the past two weeks, at least. John Surman, Laura Jurd, Sons of Kemit + new releases.

                        JLU in the past seems to have had quite an elastic progamme, quite as likely to play a current Trad Jazz group, Pop-Jazz, or contemporary Jazz. Kevin Legendre is one of the presenters, and is a modernist.

                        The only consistent contemporary Jazz programme is of course Jazz on 3 on Monday nights. Let's hope that Wagner does not stretch his tentacles that far.

                        But the whole of Saturday, Alyn Shipton, Claire Martin, and Geoffrey Smith are quite as likely to play mainstream as contemporary. My guess is that that is a fair reflection of the spectrum of Jazz listeners. And I think most of the classical music lovers, who enjoy Jazz as well would listen to mainstream - Bird would be stretching it a bit, let alone 'Trane and what followed.

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                        • Old Grumpy
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                          • Jan 2011
                          • 3666

                          #27
                          Originally posted by MarkG View Post
                          Good news to keep JRR in a regular slot. Although it looks like a whole two and a half of hours of (mostly) mainstream jazz.

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                          • Serial_Apologist
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 37882

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Oddball View Post
                            There has been plenty of contemporary Jazz on JLU over the past two weeks, at least. John Surman, Laura Jurd, Sons of Kemit + new releases.

                            JLU in the past seems to have had quite an elastic progamme, quite as likely to play a current Trad Jazz group, Pop-Jazz, or contemporary Jazz. Kevin Legendre is one of the presenters, and is a modernist.

                            The only consistent contemporary Jazz programme is of course Jazz on 3 on Monday nights. Let's hope that Wagner does not stretch his tentacles that far.

                            But the whole of Saturday, Alyn Shipton, Claire Martin, and Geoffrey Smith are quite as likely to play mainstream as contemporary. My guess is that that is a fair reflection of the spectrum of Jazz listeners. And I think most of the classical music lovers, who enjoy Jazz as well would listen to mainstream - Bird would be stretching it a bit, let alone 'Trane and what followed.
                            Ooh yes! With classical people who maybe fancy a bit of jazz on the side, it depends very much on subterfuge, I find. My late father - very much a dyed-in-the-wool Beethoven and Tchaikovsky fanatic - never took to the idea of freely extemporised jazz, saying that jazz had to be improvised on something pre-set, or it could not be followed (by him). One day I told Julie Tippetts this, and she said, "Then why don't you try just playing him some, without saying beforehand whether it's pre-composed or not, then ask him what he thought of it". I did so. Afterwards I asked him, "Well, what did you think of that, Dad?" "I thought it was wonderful" he replied!

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                            • Old Grumpy
                              Full Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 3666

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Oddball View Post
                              There has been plenty of contemporary Jazz on JLU over the past two weeks, at least. John Surman, Laura Jurd, Sons of Kemit + new releases.

                              JLU in the past seems to have had quite an elastic progamme, quite as likely to play a current Trad Jazz group, Pop-Jazz, or contemporary Jazz. Kevin Legendre is one of the presenters, and is a modernist.

                              The only consistent contemporary Jazz programme is of course Jazz on 3 on Monday nights. Let's hope that Wagner does not stretch his tentacles that far.

                              But the whole of Saturday, Alyn Shipton, Claire Martin, and Geoffrey Smith are quite as likely to play mainstream as contemporary. My guess is that that is a fair reflection of the spectrum of Jazz listeners. And I think most of the classical music lovers, who enjoy Jazz as well would listen to mainstream - Bird would be stretching it a bit, let alone 'Trane and what followed.
                              Though a lot of the (in the literal sense of the word) contemporary jazz on JLU/JRR has been mainstreamesque, leaving the more way-out stuff for Jez on 3, I would suggest.

                              OG

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                              • Quarky
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 2672

                                #30
                                For those who have not read RW's blog:So the Last Night of the BBC Proms is behind us, the Summer is over and the new concert year and a new BBC-wide film music season begin.

                                It always feels to me like the start of a new term.

                                It has been terrific to hear and read all the acclaim that the Proms festival has received and I give huge thanks on behalf of our audience to all of my colleagues who worked so hard to deliver such a successful festival, not least the range of our broadcasting and interactive offer.

                                On Radio 3 the live music continues and is expanded in our weekend schedule changes which we are announcing this week.

                                Radio 3 is playing its part in the BBC's savings plans and so our changes are the result of our having to work with a reduced budget and more limited resources.

                                However, we are keen to protect the range of what we do and these weekend schedule changes have given us the chance to increase our live in concert offer on Saturdays and Sundays. We have also taken the opportunity to help with the clarity and consistency of the scheduling, not least our jazz programmes on Saturday.

                                I have, quite understandably, received from our committed jazz listeners feedback that our live opera scheduling makes it hard to know when the jazz programmes are on and sometimes they get knocked out of the schedule altogether. Our new Saturday schedule gives Jazz Record Requests a fixed slot and brings Jazz Line-Up back into daytime.

                                There are though, sadly, losses. For example, World Routes is a terrifically distinctive programme but it is costly with all the foreign travel and so we are giving it a break, leaving World on 3 to continue to reflect global artists and topics in this music genre. The Early Music Show will also be reduced by one programme but will make way for a new lunchtime concert slot at 1pm.

                                There will also be a new Saturday programme about film music, presented by Matthew Sweet. This will come off the back of our film music season called Sound of Cinema, which will be the name of the new programme. We decided to create a film music programme to reflect the increasing interest in film music. So, we will have more live music and the weekend schedule will have a new look and feel to it. There will be many who will look forward to the new concert slots, the film show and a clarified jazz offering. Inevitably you can’t please everybody and of course whenever you make a change there will be those who disagree about our other output changing its broadcast times (such as moving Drama on 3 later). Drama on 3 will sit in a slot which we know attracts audiences for speech content. It is a slot that drama on Radio 3 has been in before. I hope that you continue to find much to enjoy and I look forward to hearing your responses to the programmes over the next few months.

                                Roger Wright, Controller, BBC Radio 3 and Director, BBC Proms

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