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  • Tenor Freak
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    • Dec 2010
    • 1061

    Jass Flute

    Down in the shed I've been practising my flute much more of late - and listening to flautists who play jass, after Ian posted about Nicole Mitchell a while back.

    But the flute is bloody hard to play, much more so than the tenor, I think. Partly that's because I haven't put in the hours on the flute that I have on the saxophone, though I think also that intrinsically it's a much less forgiving instrument. For one thing, it has fewer keys on which you can change the register - if you want to change the octave on a note, you have to do it by breath control. In fact, breath control is where it's at on the flute because it's bottom end is very weak and quiet, and its top end is very loud and shrill, unless you can control the airstream at both ends - not to mention the middle range - by blowing a column of air over the embouchure hole which must be adjusted for every note played in terms of air pressure, cross-section and direction over the hole.

    At the moment I'm practising exercises from a beginner's book because I sound like an eight year old (albeit one who can play an F# major scale). I have a flute tutorial book by Don Rendell which has some pieces written specially by Barbara Thompson but it will be a while yet before I feel ready to play those. However the flute seems to offer a new dimension to the music which is probably why it is played as a double by so many saxophonists. Most jazzers who play the flute are saxophonists who double on it; there really aren't that many who specialise in the flute which is odd considering the technical challenges involved. I think this is explained partly by the audience's expectations: they want to hear saxophone, trumpet, or piano solos; they're not expecting a flute or a cello for that matter. In the days before amplification I could see why the flute couldn't cut it in the old jazz ensembles over the brass. Others will be able to point to flutes in Paul Whiteman's orchestra, for example, but my guess is that it was considered prissy, too white and European, and not jazz-worthy (to use John Litweiler's expression).

    So I started looking for some examples of jazz flute. Many exist of course...so here are some fine examples...


    Let's begin with the guvnor - despite Brian Morton being rather sniffy regarding his strengths as a flautist on Jazz Library, there's no denying that Dolphy is a major voice on this instrument, which considering it was his voice #3 is all the more remarkable. Just think of what he might have achieved if he hadn't dissipated his effort across three disparate woodwinds, though the trouble is, which one does he give up?

    all words are trains for moving past what really has no name
  • Quarky
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    • Dec 2010
    • 2672

    #2
    Don't laugh! The moment i read Jazz flute, i had a mental image of a young lady playing Peanut Vendor with Stan Kenton.
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    alas tempus fugit:
    Last edited by Quarky; 23-02-13, 11:34. Reason: nothing to do with thread

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    • Tenor Freak
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      • Dec 2010
      • 1061

      #3
      Next up is one of my favourite versions of my favourite Trane composition:

      all words are trains for moving past what really has no name

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      • Tenor Freak
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        • Dec 2010
        • 1061

        #4
        Then again, this is absolutely beautiful - Yusef Lateef really has mastered this bitch of an instrument in this wonderful version of an old standard:

        all words are trains for moving past what really has no name

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        • MrGongGong
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          • Nov 2010
          • 18357

          #5
          Eddie Parker gets my vote

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          • Dave2002
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            • Dec 2010
            • 18035

            #6
            Originally posted by Tenor Freak View Post
            Then again, this is absolutely beautiful - Yusef Lateef really has mastered this bitch of an instrument in this wonderful version of an old standard:

            You beat me to it. There's a list of jazz flute players on this page - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_flautists

            Roland Kirk, Eric Dolphy and Harold McNair are players worth checking out - but I expect you know that.

            Laurel Zucker is a classical player, but she has also recorded some jazz style pieces e.g A Night in Quito.

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            • Tenor Freak
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              • Dec 2010
              • 1061

              #7
              Originally posted by Oddball View Post
              Don't laugh! The moment i read Jazz flute, i had a mental image of a young lady playing Peanut Vendor with Stan Kenton.
              Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

              here is male equivalent:
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_okd-n42p0
              Very good
              Last edited by Tenor Freak; 23-02-13, 09:38. Reason: taters
              all words are trains for moving past what really has no name

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              • Tenor Freak
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                • Dec 2010
                • 1061

                #8
                Henry Threadgill does a great job with an all-flute ensemble:

                all words are trains for moving past what really has no name

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                • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 4314

                  #9
                  Roland....who certainly had a nose for it? Agree about Lateef, a wonderful player on anything.

                  Jeremy Stieg, Herbie Mann specialised on it? Fathead Newman doubled very well, esp with Ray on ballads... Frank Wess?

                  BN.

                  And...Tubby Hayes, James Spaulding on some the excellent Freddie Hubbard BNote dates. Coltrane was left, and played once on record, Dolphy's flute...

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                  • Tenor Freak
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                    • Dec 2010
                    • 1061

                    #10
                    Mr H. Threadgill of Chicago, IL, USA has a point to make:

                    all words are trains for moving past what really has no name

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                    • Byas'd Opinion

                      #11
                      Among the current UK guys, there's Gareth Lockrane, who seems to play flute exclusively. Well, he plays quite a few members of the flute family, from piccolo down to bass flute, but I'm not aware of him playing anything else.

                      I heard him live a few months ago with Phil Robson's "Immeasurable Code" band and was most impressed. This is him with his own septet:

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                      • Tenor Freak
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                        • Dec 2010
                        • 1061

                        #12
                        Tubby Hayes

                        all words are trains for moving past what really has no name

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                        • Tenor Freak
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 1061

                          #13
                          I like Kent Jordan's approach to the flute too...there's not much of his stuff on Yewtube so here's another rendition of Moment's Notice:

                          all words are trains for moving past what really has no name

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                          • Mr Pee
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3285

                            #14
                            Sorry, but what is "Jass"?

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                            Mark Twain.

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                            • Jazzrook
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                              • Mar 2011
                              • 3108

                              #15
                              Nicole Mitchell's 'Awakening' was recommended to me by Ian Thumwood and is one of the best flute albums I've heard in a long while:

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