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  • Ian Thumwood
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    • Dec 2010
    • 4225

    #16
    Although they both play guitar, I feel that Ornette has been a huge influence on both Metheny and John Scofield. Pat Matheny has often spoken about his indebtedness to Ornette whereas so much of Scofield's repertoire has the odd, snakey bluesiness abiut it that is central to much of Coleman's work. The guitar has been the most influential instrument in music for the last 50-odd years and it is entirely appropriate that the innovations and possibilities of Ornette Coleman's ideas should be appropriated in this respect.

    Metheny is a musician who I hugely admire. I think he is someone best appreciated performing live although he has issued a number of eceptional records over the years. For me, he is similar to someone like Herbie Hancock in that he has th ability to make complicated and "difficult" musical ideas into something that has the immediate impact of pop music. Small wonfer that he is one of the few musicians in jazz to attract an audience from outside the music. Recommend looking at his "Real book" where you can get some idea of the complexity of the man's ideas. As for not liking the range of sounds produced by his guitar, it is worth noting the number of different guitars he actually employed. A marked improvement on the likes of Doug Ramey, Herb Ellis , Barney Kessel or Tal Farlow who barely moved the music beyond the innovations of Charlie Christian. At least someone like Kenny Burrell was listenable and dug the blues. I think only Jim Hall offered an alterantive that in the spirit of great jazz improviation. Pre-Hendrix, the electric guiatr is jazz was practically in a state of fossilisation. Thank god for the likes of Metheny, Scofield, Abercrombie, Frisell, Rypdal, Eubanks, etc.

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    • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
      Full Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 4314

      #17
      WES Fekin Montgomery.

      There was life (and art) before last week even if some people were born yesterday.

      BN.

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      • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 4314

        #18
        My furious ducks have now shoved Song X into the furnace. Tomorrow Stern and Frisell, Tuesday, Hank Clapton...a terrible rage.

        BN.

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        • Alyn_Shipton
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 777

          #19
          For more Basie-ana, I discovered my 12 year old series for R3 about the Count has been posted on Youtube. Here's the first bit, and the rest can be found with a bit of sleuthing...

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          • aka Calum Da Jazbo
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 9173

            #20
            from jez's newsletter

            Jazz in the Round – returns to the airwaves this week in a special London Jazz Festival edition. Hordes of excited festival-goers witnessed three brilliant acts that you probably wouldn’t see sharing the same stage anywhere else, and I'll be treating you to as much live music from the day as is possible in 90 minutes!
            London-based Fofoulah kick off the show. The band is an energetic six-piece led by Loop Collective drummer Dave Smith, combining African praise song with Gambian sabar drumming and improvisation. They really whipped the crowd up for the afternoon, with a set full of joyous, intricate grooves, and a song in reverence of mothers.
            Second up is one of the most talked about and inventive drummers on the planet right now – Chris ‘Daddy’ Dave. In a change to the billed solo performance, Dave is joined by his full live-band – The Drumhedz – to present a ‘mixtape’ style set that touches on some classic jazz pieces that have been sampled in hip hop – strap yourselves in for a jaw-dropping opener!
            Finally, rising star of the piano Yaron Herman and his quartet grace us with their virtuosic and anthemic playing. The Israeli, Paris-based pianist combines his rich Middle Eastern heritage with Latin and post bop influences, and saxophonist Emile Parisien leads the line spectacularly in often breathless fashion. It's a set that sums up the whole event – infectiously energetic and a lot of fun.

            thanks for the link Alyn
            According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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            • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 4314

              #21
              Groove...mixtape...hiphop...anthemic...

              My ducks will not like this one bit.

              BN..

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              • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                Late member
                • Nov 2010
                • 9173

                #22


                they have company .....
                According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 4314

                  #23
                  Brilliant!

                  Cant see those two critics listening to DJ Tossa on turntables or Paddy Metheny and his noise box.

                  BN chez la pond.

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                  • Serial_Apologist
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 37814

                    #24
                    Having missed this it'll be interesting to see if Chris "Daddy" Dave lives up to the hype, or just a quack withum section.

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                    • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 4314

                      #25
                      Pat Metheny writes...those critical ducks have no ears and are stuck in the mud of tradition. I will never play Mood for Mallards again.

                      BN.

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                      • Quarky
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 2672

                        #26
                        Jazz is a strange thing. Important to know the music of the greats, bechet, basie, prez, etc, but I quickly tire of listening to their historic recordings. So while jazz is based in its historic legacy, it is a music of the moment, and what really counts is the live performance. Of course Jazz owes its continued existence to recordings, but for me i find the performance of Ethiopian Jazz on World Routes ultimately more satisfying than any amount of Prez.
                        Rant over.

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                        • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 4314

                          #27
                          Some would say that Monk, Bird, Lester, Trane, Mclean, Powell, Hawkins, Bix et al are timeless and hence...of the moment?

                          Depends on your moment.

                          BN

                          And is todays art, in the unmade bed moment, more human and moving than say, Turner or Goya? Why conflate new with... better?

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                          • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                            Late member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 9173

                            #28
                            ditto Oddball but in reverse when it comes to Pres and Ethiopian jazz
                            According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                            • Quarky
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 2672

                              #29
                              Originally posted by BLUESNIK'S REVOX View Post
                              Some would say that Monk, Bird, Lester, Trane, Mclean, Powell, Hawkins, Bix et al are timeless and hence...of the moment?

                              Depends on your moment.

                              BN
                              Yes BN, I guess. But it is a subjective thing for me. A live performance being like eating something fresh in a restaurant, whereas a historic recording is more like digging out frozen food from the freezer - oh no not vegetarian sausages again!

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                              • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 4314

                                #30
                                Why must it be either or? The past informs the present...the historic, the live now.

                                Agree with you about veg sausage tho!

                                BN.

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