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[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

...interesting mix, fancy the Benny Carter [who now seems indispensable], Cliiford Brown cuts, and especially Lucky Thompson.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

listening to Easy Money by Benny Carter with a small ensemble i am reminded of a comment by G Giddins on Teddy Wilson having discovered his impeccable style he stayed there whereas he might have done more ...[he later withdrew such a critical stance] but what is the point of tracks like Easy Money, impeccable true, but rather vapid .... no stretch .... no sense of any danger, of falling off the wire .... [and Ian i'm afraid the same can be said of the track from Central City Sketches ..]

[Tenor Freak]

Re: Teddy Wilson. Here's a grand example where he shows his class:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR9cxMLc7go

[Tenor Freak]

Ah, missed part of the programme but I found the Gigi Gryce track particularly good (and Gary Burton too)

[Ian Thumwood]

Calum

Sorry to disagree but I think your assessment of Carter is a little unfair. The comment about "lack of danger" is worth picking up on as Carter never fronted bands that had the punch of his contemporaries and there was an accent on melody and musical matters as opposed to anything that could be claimed as being superficial. The point about the 1980's big band album was that many of the score dated from 50 years earlier and still sounded fresh and relevent. There is an element of poke about them and tightness of playing which marks this record as being better than the original recordings from the 30's in many instances. For me, Carter is a crucial figure in jazz both as an instrumentalist and a writer. There weren't many players who could actually boast of being instrumental in the creation of big band writing in the 1920's and then continue to sound relevent for the next 60 years. Even late in life, Carter still had a great tone on his horn and his playing was totally under control.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

i am not commenting on Carter so much as the two tracks Ian, some of his stuff i think is absolutey wonderful, but that version of Easy Money was boring ....

take your point on the history of the arrangement but that band didn't seem to have the attack it might have ...

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

I thought it was a very enjoyable programme (and a name check always works wonders !)

Agree with Calum about Lucky Thompson - that's a really superb album (Candid) with Lucky talking at the start about "life" etc. The Carter (King) track didn't do much for me - was that from the Granz/Pablo era? But I respect his playing esp. the earlier Contemporary albums with Shelly Manne etc. The Mike Osborne track was good too but he always sounded FAR more impressive in person.

Next week ~ Le Chesney Baker! "Chet in Rome" c. '63 with the Bobby Jasper/Rene Thomas Quintet does it for me - great stuff. Even tho' Daniel Humair threatened to punch his lights out at the end. Chet eh? And then there's the Prestige sides with George Coleman and much later Chet live in Japan playing clean, like a dream.."Hey, lets just get out of here and find some f...... drugs!"

BN.

How long you been a host Calum? Get me a quart of vodka and a pack of those Reetie Vooties.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

a votre service El Senor!

yep a Granz/Pablo Carter album, the Lucky is amazin ....

[charles t]

[Bluesie]: "Hey, lets just get out of here and find some f...... drugs!"

And the time at The Plugged Nickle, where at the set's end, a guy walked up to the stand to Chet...they disappeared; then later - well before the beginning of the following set - Chet walked onto the stage, sat on a stool in the center, and nodded off.

I guess he didn't want to be late for the set.