A Contrast with only one loser and then there is Jon3 1-2-3/6/12

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

with a finger snapping follow up to Roy Haynes Geoffrey showcases Jimmie Lunceford

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US pianist Robert Glasper and his electric Experiment band in concert. Glasper is one of the most exciting artists to emerge in the last few years, with a language strongly influenced by hip-hop as well as musicians such as Herbie Hancock. He has received rave reviews on previous trips to the UK, with both his acoustic trio and this band, which draws heavily on neo soul, funk and R&B. Their latest album, Black Radio, is causing a stir on both sides of the Atlantic in its quest to bring jazz to a new audience, with guest appearances by numerous stars of the urban music world. The band features Casey Benjamin on saxophone and vocoder, bassist Derrick Hodge and drummer Mark Colenburg, with a special guest appearance by vocalist Bilal.

Jon3

taster of Glasper

[Serial_Apologist]

If he uses one of those things that sounds like a harmonica stuck up the nose, I shan't be listening.

[handsomefortune]

i suppose another option might be to stick a harmonica up our own noses and play along ... it might 'bring new audiences'?

[Serial_Apologist]

i suppose another option might be to stick a harmonica up our own noses and play along ... it might 'bring new audiences'?

Roland Kirk tried something along similar lines at Ronnies back in the 60s... it ended with a police raid.

[handsomefortune]

follow up to Roy Haynes

but you can't really 'follow' haynes!!

and tbh i missed the drum teacher as employed on the papa jones 'jazz library', as hayne's technique is fascinating, not that i liked all the tracks played, but some were great. i also missed studio guests with anecdotes about working with haynes...but overall it was well worth a listen.

[handsomefortune]

i bet that was a sax stuck up kirk's nose........ might've required the fire brigade ...rather than the police who sometimes aren't that helpful in some emergencies. nevertheless, beautiful flute on that early 60s track from mr rolland kirk.

hayne's drumming on the sarah vaughan track really stood out to my ears. (ideally, we should have an 'ears emoticon' on this forum)? haynes was fantasticly supportive to front line performers imv - knew when to do exquisitely intricate cymbal work, and when to disappear all together, just popping by for a few dashes on the snare, and bass drum accents.

did tony williams sound a bit max roach to others?

bit of a waste of hayne's talent on the latin stuff maybe?

i much prefer this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb4o9f-GU5o which pace-wise incidentally reminds me of funki porcini's 'ritmo di jazz' tbh.... (as posted on caliban's electro swing inquiries thread)!

[Serial_Apologist]

did tony williams sound a bit max roach to others?

Didn't hear the programme (unless it was a repeat) but - and I know I'll probably be crucified for saying this - for me the answer would be no. Was Tony Williams featured on the programme as well then?

Original though Roy Haynes was - and a crucial link between Roach and Jack DeJohnette, whom he taught - he was of the generation before Tony Williams.

For me the best of Tony Williams was the stuff he did at the time he was with Miles's quintet, inside and outside that band. His way with time and texture, inputting and responding, was astounding by any feat of imagination, and pivotal to the great Blue Note "Out To Lunch", from 1964, when he was still only 18!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IobGNxWB0qE&feature=related

[Lateralthinking1]

Well, I was just about to say "isn't that Glasper clip a bit of a steal from Herbie Hancock's "I Thought It Was You"? Now I see he cites him as an influence. The question must be whether he can translate that effect into jazz for, much as I liked the late 1970s record, surely it was reckoned to be one of Hancock's least jazzy periods?

[handsomefortune]

Didn't hear the programme (unless it was a repeat) but - and I know I'll probably be crucified for saying this - for me the answer would be no. Was Tony Williams featured on the programme as well then? yes*

Original though Roy Haynes was - and a crucial link between Roach and Jack DeJohnette, whom he taught - he was of the generation before Tony Williams.

For me the best of Tony Williams was the stuff he did at the time he was with Miles's quintet, inside and outside that band. His way with time and texture, inputting and responding, was astounding by any feat of imagination, and pivotal to the great Blue Note "Out To Lunch", from 1964, when he was still only 18! (dj geoffrey mentioned this iirc)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IobGN...eature=related

thanks a lot for the tune serial apologist, iirc williams is really young (18)? on the track featured from 1963 on geoff's new show last saturday! according to geoff's notes, *hayne's influenced tony williams apparently - (and they both came from massachoosits)....

dj geoffrey's tracklist from last saturday in full....


Artist Image for Eric Dolphy
Eric Dolphy Miss Toni

Composer: Eric Dolphy Performers: Eric Dolphy (as), Freddie Hubbard (tr), Jackie Byard (p), George Tucker (b), Roy Haynes (d) Recorded: 1960

Outward Bound, New Jazz OJCCD0222 (1), 5.37
Artist Image for Lester Young
Lester Young Ding Dong

Composer: Guarnieri Performers: Lester Young (ts), Jesse Drakes (tr), Jerry Eliot (trb), Junior Mance (p), Leroy Jackson (b), Roy Haynes (d) Recorded: 1949

A Life In Time: The Roy Haynes Story, Dreyfus Jazz FDM 46050 368882, D1, Tr 1, 2.24
Artist Image for Bud Powell
Bud Powell Bouncin’ With Bud

Composer: Fuller/Powell Performers: Fats Navarro (tr), Sonny Rollins (ts), Bud Powell (p), Tommy Potter (b), Roy Haynes (d) Recorded: 1949

A Life In Time: The Roy Haynes Story, Dreyfus Jazz FDM 46050 368882, D1, Tr 2, 3.00
Artist Image for Sarah Vaughan
Sarah Vaughan Shulie-A-Bop

Composer: Threadwekk/Vaughan Performers: Sarah Vaughan (voc), John Malachi (p), Joe Benjamin (b), Roy Haynes (d) Recorded: 1954

A Life In Time: The Roy Haynes Story, Dreyfus Jazz FDM 46050 368882, D1, Tr 8, 2.37
Artist Image for Stan Getz
Stan Getz I’m Late, I’m Late

Composer: Eddie Sauter Performers: Stan Getz (ts), John Neves (b), Roy Haynes (d) Recorded: 1961

Stan Getz - Focus, Verve 8219822 (1), Tr 1, start 3.58, 4.09
Artist Image for Roy Haynes
Roy Haynes Snap Crackle

Composer: Haynes Performers: Roland Kirk (reeds), Tommy Flanagan (p), Henry Grimes (b), Roy Haynes (d) Recorded: 1962

A Life In Time: The Roy Haynes Story, Dreyfus Jazz FDM 46050 368882, D2, Tr 1, 4.00
Artist Image for Miles Davis
Miles Davis Seven Steps To Heaven

Composer: M Davis/V Feldman Performers: Miles Davis (tr), George Coleman (ts), Herbie Hancock (p), Ron Carter (b), Anthony Williams (d) Recorded: 1963

Seven Steps To Heaven, Columbia 4669702 (1), Tr 3, 0.42
Artist Image for John Coltrane
John Coltrane Dear Lord

Composer: John Coltrane Performers: John Coltrane (ts), McCoy Tyner (p), Jimmy Garrison (b), Roy Haynes (d) Recorded: 1965

Transition, Impulse MVCZ86 (1), Tr 2, 5.32
Artist Image for Gary Burton
Gary Burton Liturgy

Composer: Mike Gibbs Performers: Gary Burton (vibes), Larry Coryell (g), Steve Swallow (b), Roy Haynes (d) Recorded: 1967

Duster, RCA 74321257302 (1), Tr 7, 3.22
Artist Image for Chick Corea
Chick Corea Trio Improvisation

Composer: Chick Corea Performers: Chick Corea (p), Miroslav Vitous (b), Roy Haynes (d) Recorded: 1981

Trio Music, ECM 1232/33, R1, S1/3, 3.00
Artist Image
Stephane Grappelli & Michel Pettruciani Sweet Georgia Brown

Composer: Ben Bernie/Kenneth Casey/Maceo Pinkard Performers: Stephane Grappelli (vl), Michel Pettruciani (p), Geroge Mraz (b), Roy Haynes (d) Recorded: 1995

Flamingo, Dreyfus Jazz FDM 46050 369242, Tr 4, 4.03
Artist Image for Pat Metheny
Pat Metheny James

Composer: Metheny/May Performers: Pat Metheny (g), Donald Harrison (as), David Kikoski (p), Christian McBride (b), Roy Haynes (d) Recorded: 1994

A Life In Time: The Roy Haynes Story, Dreyfus Jazz FDM 46050 368882, D3, Tr 1, 4.31
Artist Image for Roy Haynes
Roy Haynes Vistalite

Composer: Haynes Performers: Joe Henderson (ts), Ricardo Strobert (fl), Marcus Fiorilla (g), Stanley Cowell (p), Dave Jackson (b), Kenneth Nash (perc), Roy Haynes (d) Recorded: 1978

A Life In Time: The Roy Haynes Story, Dreyfus Jazz FDM 46050 368882, D3, Tr 5, 6.00

though (personally) i thought 'miss toni' a dismal start - whereas 'bouncing with bud' was terrific, as was vaughan, coltrane, tony williams, vistalite (hayne's own 70s band/compositions), chick corea and lester young tracks.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Haynes Hip Ensemble. His most recent recordings as a leader are Fountain of Youth and Whereas, both of which have been nominated for a Grammy Award. He continues to perform worldwide haynes/chick corea current release 'roy-alty' looks interesting, though is over documented (as opposed to under). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emdX4...eature=related

contemporary tap dancing from roy and jack dejohnette who, (like papa joe jones), started performance via dancing initially: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-vc6...eature=related

bus man's holiday http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD3Ub...eature=related

and a topical lovely jublee track for this wkend's festivities - tin tin deo, roy-alty. bottoms up y'all!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugAGA...eature=related hey, let's all get squeezed all over again

last up,
aggression
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxQs-...eature=related with ed blackwell on drums... not roy(-alty) haynes - but again, similar drum technique/era.

here's to roy-alty's continuing very good health

[Ian Thumwood]

Got to say that Geoffrey Smith's Jimmie Lunceford programme is right on the money. Never quite sure about the Lunceford band due to the number of vocals (I think the biting satire has been lost over the past 80 years) but the selection is terrific. Glad to hear stalwart tracks like "For Dancers only" and the exceptional "Uptown Blues." This programme is really enjoyable.

[Serial_Apologist]

thanks a lot for the tune serial apologist, iirc williams is really young (18)? on the track featured from 1963 on geoff's new show last saturday! according to geoff's notes, *hayne's influenced tony williams apparently - (and they both came from massachoosits)....

dj geoffrey's tracklist from last saturday in full....


Artist Image for Eric Dolphy
Eric Dolphy Miss Toni

Composer: Eric Dolphy Performers: Eric Dolphy (as), Freddie Hubbard (tr), Jackie Byard (p), George Tucker (b), Roy Haynes (d) Recorded: 1960

Outward Bound, New Jazz OJCCD0222 (1), 5.37
Artist Image for Lester Young
Lester Young Ding Dong

Composer: Guarnieri Performers: Lester Young (ts), Jesse Drakes (tr), Jerry Eliot (trb), Junior Mance (p), Leroy Jackson (b), Roy Haynes (d) Recorded: 1949

A Life In Time: The Roy Haynes Story, Dreyfus Jazz FDM 46050 368882, D1, Tr 1, 2.24
Artist Image for Bud Powell
Bud Powell Bouncin’ With Bud

Composer: Fuller/Powell Performers: Fats Navarro (tr), Sonny Rollins (ts), Bud Powell (p), Tommy Potter (b), Roy Haynes (d) Recorded: 1949

A Life In Time: The Roy Haynes Story, Dreyfus Jazz FDM 46050 368882, D1, Tr 2, 3.00
Artist Image for Sarah Vaughan
Sarah Vaughan Shulie-A-Bop

Composer: Threadwekk/Vaughan Performers: Sarah Vaughan (voc), John Malachi (p), Joe Benjamin (b), Roy Haynes (d) Recorded: 1954

A Life In Time: The Roy Haynes Story, Dreyfus Jazz FDM 46050 368882, D1, Tr 8, 2.37
Artist Image for Stan Getz
Stan Getz I’m Late, I’m Late

Composer: Eddie Sauter Performers: Stan Getz (ts), John Neves (b), Roy Haynes (d) Recorded: 1961

Stan Getz - Focus, Verve 8219822 (1), Tr 1, start 3.58, 4.09
Artist Image for Roy Haynes
Roy Haynes Snap Crackle

Composer: Haynes Performers: Roland Kirk (reeds), Tommy Flanagan (p), Henry Grimes (b), Roy Haynes (d) Recorded: 1962

A Life In Time: The Roy Haynes Story, Dreyfus Jazz FDM 46050 368882, D2, Tr 1, 4.00
Artist Image for Miles Davis
Miles Davis Seven Steps To Heaven

Composer: M Davis/V Feldman Performers: Miles Davis (tr), George Coleman (ts), Herbie Hancock (p), Ron Carter (b), Anthony Williams (d) Recorded: 1963

Seven Steps To Heaven, Columbia 4669702 (1), Tr 3, 0.42
Artist Image for John Coltrane
John Coltrane Dear Lord

Composer: John Coltrane Performers: John Coltrane (ts), McCoy Tyner (p), Jimmy Garrison (b), Roy Haynes (d) Recorded: 1965

Transition, Impulse MVCZ86 (1), Tr 2, 5.32
Artist Image for Gary Burton
Gary Burton Liturgy

Composer: Mike Gibbs Performers: Gary Burton (vibes), Larry Coryell (g), Steve Swallow (b), Roy Haynes (d) Recorded: 1967

Duster, RCA 74321257302 (1), Tr 7, 3.22
Artist Image for Chick Corea
Chick Corea Trio Improvisation

Composer: Chick Corea Performers: Chick Corea (p), Miroslav Vitous (b), Roy Haynes (d) Recorded: 1981

Trio Music, ECM 1232/33, R1, S1/3, 3.00
Artist Image
Stephane Grappelli & Michel Pettruciani Sweet Georgia Brown

Composer: Ben Bernie/Kenneth Casey/Maceo Pinkard Performers: Stephane Grappelli (vl), Michel Pettruciani (p), Geroge Mraz (b), Roy Haynes (d) Recorded: 1995

Flamingo, Dreyfus Jazz FDM 46050 369242, Tr 4, 4.03
Artist Image for Pat Metheny
Pat Metheny James

Composer: Metheny/May Performers: Pat Metheny (g), Donald Harrison (as), David Kikoski (p), Christian McBride (b), Roy Haynes (d) Recorded: 1994

A Life In Time: The Roy Haynes Story, Dreyfus Jazz FDM 46050 368882, D3, Tr 1, 4.31
Artist Image for Roy Haynes
Roy Haynes Vistalite

Composer: Haynes Performers: Joe Henderson (ts), Ricardo Strobert (fl), Marcus Fiorilla (g), Stanley Cowell (p), Dave Jackson (b), Kenneth Nash (perc), Roy Haynes (d) Recorded: 1978

A Life In Time: The Roy Haynes Story, Dreyfus Jazz FDM 46050 368882, D3, Tr 5, 6.00

though (personally) i thought 'miss toni' a dismal start - whereas 'bouncing with bud' was terrific, as was vaughan, coltrane, tony williams, vistalite (hayne's own 70s band/compositions), chick corea and lester young tracks.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Haynes Hip Ensemble. His most recent recordings as a leader are Fountain of Youth and Whereas, both of which have been nominated for a Grammy Award. He continues to perform worldwide haynes/chick corea current release 'roy-alty' looks interesting, though is over documented (as opposed to under). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emdX4...eature=related

contemporary tap dancing from roy and jack dejohnette who, (like papa joe jones), started performance via dancing initially: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-vc6...eature=related

bus man's holiday http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD3Ub...eature=related

and a topical lovely jublee track for this wkend's festivities - tin tin deo, roy-alty. bottoms up y'all!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugAGA...eature=related hey, let's all get squeezed all over again

last up,
aggression
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxQs-...eature=related with ed blackwell on drums... not roy(-alty) haynes - but again, similar drum technique/era.

here's to roy-alty's continuing very good health

Thanks for these, HSF - only just caught up. Listen to the whole of Out To Lunch, if you would - the whole album is celebrated. I think you'll see what I mean.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

The Robert Glasper Experiment in Concert

“I don’t believe everyone in the jazz world is using their imagination,” says tonight’s featured artist Robert Glasper. The American pianist is clearly unafraid of letting his roam free. Tonight’s music – the highlights of the keyboard player’s recent three-hour epic at London’s Barbican – reveals a man with distinct designs on the size and shape of jazz to come.

Glasper is a rare breed, equally respected as both a jazz pianist-composer and as a producer-arranger working across a variety of genres from soul and RnB to hip hop - something of a modern-day Quincy Jones is how my guest this week Gilles Peterson puts it. In between highlights from the gig there’s a chance to hear Gilles in conversation with Robert, whose definition of jazz as “a reflection of the society of the time” comes across in the hip hop grooves and nu-soul sound that dominate much of the set.

In a blistering opening 45 minutes, the music of John Coltrane, Roy Ayers and Herbie Hancock are attacked by the flowing free-funk of Glasper at the keys, bassist Derrick Hodge and drummer Mark Colenburg - as tight a rhythmic unit as you’re likely to hear - while Casey Benjamin’s wild saxophone solos stir up the excitement. Later, guest vocalist Bilal joins the band for a David Bowie ballad and – to close - a hit by American grunge band Nirvana is given a vocoder makeover.

I should point out – for those with electric-Herbie allergies – there is more than just a ‘trace’ of vocoder on the menu this evening (!); and the band’s overtly ‘fusion’ sound might not be to everyone’s tastes. Judging from the reaction of the sell-out crowd, however, Glasper’s Experiment seems to be producing the right results. See what you think - join me tonight from 11pm to hear all this, or listen online for seven days after broadcast.

Jez

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[Serial_Apologist]

Ah yes - the vocoder is the adenoidal noise...

[burning dog]

Problem for me is IMO this music isn't the electro-Herbie or Quincy Jones for today, it's a pale copy of Herbie way back. Hancock took on board funk, disco, then hip hop, but fed back into them and influenced them.

[Serial_Apologist]

Problem for me is IMO this music isn't the electro-Herbie or Quincy Jones for today, it's a pale copy of Herbie way back. Hancock took on board funk, disco, then hip hop, but fed back into them and influenced them.