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  • aka Calum Da Jazbo
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 9173

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    it has been a few days since the Jazzwise story broke and i can find no comment or reaction from R3 any where ....

    there can be no rationale for the alleged changes merely the opportunistic and perhaps desperate tactical stumbles in response to Delivering Quality First, being managed by Davie, and Squealer's own choices ...

    there may be more bad news to come
    According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.
  • Serial_Apologist
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 37628

    #2
    Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
    it has been a few days since the Jazzwise story broke and i can find no comment or reaction from R3 any where ....

    there can be no rationale for the alleged changes merely the opportunistic and perhaps desperate tactical stumbles in response to Delivering Quality First, being managed by Davie, and Squealer's own choices ...

    there may be more bad news to come
    An understandable conclusion to reach when the information machine goes totally schtum.

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    • Alyn_Shipton
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 773

      #3
      I think this might be what you were looking for...http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...rey-smith.html

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      • Old Grumpy
        Full Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 3601

        #4
        Originally posted by Alyn_Shipton View Post
        I think this might be what you were looking for...http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...rey-smith.html
        Yep - looks good. Shame it's on so late though - will this be Geoffrey's regular slot?

        OG

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        • hackneyvi

          #5
          Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
          Yep - looks good. Shame it's on so late though - will this be Geoffrey's regular slot?

          OG
          The schedule has explicitly become what it always really was - an index for finding music. I appreciate that significance can attach to a slot but every R3 programme is now broadcast continuously for a week. The slot is now just the point at which the 7 day broadcast starts.
          Last edited by Guest; 29-03-12, 22:09. Reason: The tone was unintentionally didactic where the feeling was of revelation

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          • aka Calum Da Jazbo
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 9173

            #6
            well it just looks like musical presenters chairs to me with no real rhyme nor reason other than operational tactics and i wonder just how long GS can sustain a midnight personal programme .... with the end of JL any pretense at analysis and review leaves the schedule ... so it is just a game of presenters musical chairs now and we are still in the graveyard of broadcasting time slots ...

            i really think jazz would be better served on R6 well away from Squealer, he has miserably failed to live up to his words over the years ... as a matter of fact the whole approach of R6 to music would be well suited to R3 ..

            if as hackneyvi posts it is essentailly a web based week long programme availability tyhen R3 just fails to compare with NPR for content and presentation

            i think that the management of R3 and its policies and decisions affecting Jazz are now failing their remit and i am despondent since i do not believe there is any lever to get change for the better
            According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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            • french frank
              Administrator/Moderator
              • Feb 2007
              • 30255

              #7
              I hope Alyn will have a bit of freedom to do more than just spin the discs and interact with the audience. I don't see how a request show is going to use his knowledge and expertise to the full. The Jazzwise story says he has a remit 'to draw in a broader, and slightly younger listenership' (I wonder where they got that from: it's not in the press release Alyn gave the link to). So, a sort of cross between the Sara Mohr-Pietsch and the Rob Cowan of jazz? That could be a poisoned chalice

              [And how did they hide that press link? The story isn't showing on either of the Media Centre's Latest News pages, the general one or the Radio 3 one.

              Add: It's there now ..]
              Last edited by french frank; 30-03-12, 12:21. Reason: Update
              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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              • Serial_Apologist
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 37628

                #8
                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                I hope Alyn will have a bit of freedom to do more than just spin the discs and interact with the audience. I don't see how a request show is going to use his knowledge and expertise to the full. The Jazzwise story says he has a remit 'to draw in a broader, and slightly younger listenership' (I wonder where they got that from: it's not in the press release Alyn gave the link to). So, a sort of cross between the Sara Mohr-Pietsch and the Rob Cowan of jazz? That could be a poisoned chalice

                [And how did they hide that press link? The story isn't showing on either of the Media Centre's Latest News pages, the general one or the Radio 3 one.]
                EXACTLY my thoughts, French Frank.

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                • Tenor Freak
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 1055

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
                  Yep - looks good. Shame it's on so late though - will this be Geoffrey's regular slot?

                  OG
                  Yes...until the following week when it will be on at 11.30pm, then 12.15am, then missed out for a week so as not to interrupt Through the Night...
                  all words are trains for moving past what really has no name

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                  • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                    Late member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 9173

                    #10


                    The importance of keeping the pigs in good health was all too obvious. So it was agreed without further argument that the milk and the windfall apples (and also the main crop of apples when they ripened) should be reserved for the pigs alone.

                    Do not imagine, comrades, that leadership is a pleasure. On the contrary, it is a deep and heavy responsibility. No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?
                    According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                    • Alyn_Shipton
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 773

                      #11
                      with the end of JL any pretense at analysis and review
                      I assure you Calum, whatever it may sound like, there has never been any pretence on my part. JL has been five and a bit years of a genuine attempt at both those things.
                      Last edited by aka Calum Da Jazbo; 31-03-12, 13:27.

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                      • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                        Late member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 9173

                        #12
                        i believe you Alyn but my understanding is that you will now do JRR, GS will have his own 'presenter' show in the JL time slot and no more JL ..... so my despondency is for the future, not the past ... indeed the past of jazz on r3 is what makes the present and future so depressing
                        According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                        • Paul Sherratt

                          #13
                          >>>as a matter of fact the whole approach of R6 to music would be well suited to R3 ..

                          Hang on Mr C. Don't get carried away !!!!!!!!!!!!

                          Thanks AS for that link. I always wondered what that nice Mr Kurowski's job title was !

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                          • Tenor Freak
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 1055

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Paul Sherratt View Post
                            >>>as a matter of fact the whole approach of R6 to music would be well suited to R3 ..

                            Hang on Mr C. Don't get carried away !!!!!!!!!!!!
                            I don't understand.
                            all words are trains for moving past what really has no name

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                            • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                              Late member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 9173

                              #15
                              Andrew Kurowski, Editor of New Music and Jazz, BBC Radio 3 said: "The station continues in its commitment to broadcast a wide range of jazz programmes aimed at both jazz aficionados and listeners who are newer to the genre."

                              http://www.jazzjournal.co.uk/jazz-la...ecord-requests
                              ANDREW KUROWSKI
                              Andrew Kurowski has been on the staff of BBC Radio since 1979, first as a sound-technician and as a member of
                              the music production department for Radio 3. His interests have always been dominated by new music: he studied
                              contemporary music and composition at Cambridge with Alexander Goehr, and is now responsible for the new
                              music output on Radio 3. This embraces not only programme output but also the management of the Network’s
                              new music commissions – including the BBC Orchestras and Singers and the BBC Proms. He also represents Radio
                              3 on matters of new music outside the BBC and for several years was chair of the International Society for
                              Contemporary Music, work which was brought to a head in the 1998 ISCM World Music Days in Manchester. In
                              his years as a Producer and Subsequently Editor in Radio 3’s music department, he has worked predominantly on
                              programmes devoted to new music: Music in our Time, Midnight Oil, Hear and Now, Between the Ears and most
                              recently Late Junction. In 1990 he devised and mounted the BBC’s Berio at the Barbican weekend, bringing new
                              and rare performances to the London stage. He also oversees the jazz and crossover output of Radio 3 including
                              Mixing It and Jazz Legends, Andy Kershaw and World Routes. Andrew is currently the Editor of the new and
                              specialist music in the London production department.
                              like the cat said no comment ..... but it is good to know who is doing jazz down on R£ innit
                              According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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