Tim Berne/Snakeoil

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  • hackneyvi

    #16
    I confess on the night I didn't go back for the second half. Went down to Tesco Metro at the interval and the short distance seemed like a long walk back. It was probably 10-ish by then anyway. But if I disliked the entire combination in a piece of the free and dance music; if the stylistic contrast seemed to render the music for all its complexity simplistic (A-B-A), nevertheless the dance itself, the getting there and the passing between were enjoyable.

    I am reminded of Anthony Payne last year who I heard talking about his 1st string quartet. He referred to himself, self-deprecatingly, as falling between two stools. The people who liked his modernism, he said, disliked the romantic elements in his music, and the ones who liked the romantic elements disliked the modernism. It struck me when he said this - I had a very clear impression - that what this meant was that he had a different perspective because his musical position was an unusual one, between.

    To make a parallel but not a likeness, Snakeoil/Payne feels like mixing pop art with action painting, like mixing what grins with what glowers. The effect isn't roundly pleasing - an appealing conceivable 'whole' isn't made - but the music can still be sincere and of interest.
    Last edited by Guest; 04-04-12, 20:34.

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    • Tenor Freak
      Full Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 1064

      #17
      Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
      This set went along at more or less the same levels of moderate intensity for protracted passages, which made it hard to maintain interest and therefore attention - a problem I've felt with several of TB's groups over the past few years.

      S-A
      Sums it up, really. I couldn't hear any changes in tension, and found Noriega's clarinet to be shrill; I wish he'd kept to the bass clarinet.
      all words are trains for moving past what really has no name

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      • Quarky
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 2672

        #18
        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
        the lack of grippingness in the performance ........made it hard to maintain interest and therefore attention S-A
        After listening to this several times, it didn't resonate with me. Individual areas of interest, but no overall sense of purpose and didn't relate happily with my existing ideas of what should be in a Jazz performance.

        Believe a previous group of his Buffalo Collision was also played on Jon3 - so far as I recall, I enjoyed that more.

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        • Tenor Freak
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 1064

          #19
          I enjoyed Science Friction (avec Craig Taborn) much more.
          all words are trains for moving past what really has no name

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