ELMO HOPE...its for all of YOU ! (on JRR this SAT 7/1/2012).

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  • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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    • Dec 2010
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    ELMO HOPE...its for all of YOU ! (on JRR this SAT 7/1/2012).

    ..."AND can I also request Elmo Hope's "Like Someone in Love" from his 1959 "Trio" album on Contemporary, a tragic life, a massively under-rated pianist and one of the really great trio records (Elmo on piano, Frank Butler, drums, Jimmy Bond, bass.) I don't recall you ever playing anything by him? That one's for ME! (and all the participants in the much missed R3 jazz messageboards)."

    MR. BLUESNIK.


    Happy New Year. Occupy the Occupation.
  • elmo
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    • Nov 2010
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    #2
    Bluesie you are so right he really was one of the greatest pianists and composers, the Hi Fi trio album is a masterpiece also Elmo's work on "the fox" - his solo on "one down" is phenomenal.

    If you havn't read it get a copy of Robin DG Kelley Thelonious Monk "The life and times of an american genius" there is quite a lot of info about Elmo that I was not aware of including Elmo's run in with the police in his youth (shades of Bud Powell) and how Monk helped Elmo get a gig at the Village Gate in 1963. The book is also the best one I have read on Monk.

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    • aka Calum Da Jazbo
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      • Nov 2010
      • 9173

      #3
      hi elmo



      not seen this before!
      According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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      • geofflikesmusic

        #4
        I'm also a big Elmo Hope fan!

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        • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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          • Dec 2010
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          #5
          Little known Elmo facts...

          Elmo was prob. the first in NY to let Albert Ayler sit in with him and not walk away in horror.

          Elmo housed Bud Powell when Bud went "missing" on his final return to NY. Childhood friends.

          The "missing pianist" on Coltrane's 1957 Prestige trio sessions with Earl May and Art Taylor ("I love you", "Trane''s slow blues" etc.) was Elmo who had scored enough from Bob W/stock to get some drugs and then vanished from the session, and for a week, "to visit his aunt" (sic). He often did this. Not a good career move.

          Very moving Obit in Downbeat for Elmo - they played "Monique" at his funeral (Elmo/John Gilmore etc.) - from "Jazz at Riker's Island."


          Richard Cooke referred to him as a "Water Colourist" and I know just what he means...Elmo's ballad playing has that sad quality of music thro the rain.

          BN (a major fan since I heard Elmo with Sonny Rollins on "Moving Out").

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          • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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            • Dec 2010
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            #6
            "In 1967 Elmo was hospitalized with pneumonia for several weeks and while recuperating, succumbed to an apparent heart attack. I had just come back to Down Beat for a second tour of duty as New York editor. The first news story I was asked to cover was this one.

            At the funeral home the recording of Elmo's "Monique" played constantly as a bittersweet reminder of what a musician he was and what might have been. As the coffin was about to be closed, his aged father ran toward it sobbing, "My son! My son!" It was a heart-wrenching moment that remains fresh in my mind more than twenty years later.

            Elmo died on May 19 but hope had been deceased for some time.

            --IRA GITLER, from the liner notes, "Elmo Hope Trio & Quintet"

            BN

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            • aka Calum Da Jazbo
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              • Nov 2010
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              #7
              .... Great track! Cheers El Senor Blues
              According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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              • Byas'd Opinion

                #8
                Yes, thanks, a great track indeed. I haven't heard much Elmo Hope - but I'll definitely be making an effort to track more down after hearing that.

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                • handsomefortune

                  #9
                  well my 'something for the weekend' was actually this thread! i have been well and trully 'elmo hoped' all weekend. early stuff is particularly exciting an in exhilerating, as discoveries go. (btw thanks for the background info bluesnik)

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                  • Serial_Apologist
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                    • Dec 2010
                    • 37591

                    #10
                    Originally posted by handsomefortune View Post
                    well my 'something for the weekend' was actually this thread! i have been well and trully 'elmo hoped' all weekend. early stuff is particularly exciting an in exhilerating, as discoveries go. (btw thanks for the background info bluesnik)
                    "Hope springs eternal in a young (wo)man's breast"



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                    • elmo
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 541

                      #11
                      Weird coincidence that after Elmo's wonderful version of "like someone in love" it was followed on JRR by Bill Frisell playing Sonny Rollins "No moe" a tune that I think Sonny named for Elmo after another no show gig when Elmo and Sonny were close friends in the early fifties.

                      I spoke to Sonny after a concert in Cardiff years ago and asked him about Elmo, he had great regard for him as a person and a musician and felt he had not had the recognition he deserved. He particularely recalled a playing with him at the Jazz Workshop in the late fifties with Scott La Faro and Lennie McBrowne, Sonny said he was playing some of greatest piano he had ever heard.....

                      Bluesnik - Thanks for requesting that track on JRR, re your comment on Trane's trio session apparently Elmo did it again - he was supposed to be the pianist on Gene Ammons "The happy blues" session but went walkabout and they had to get Duke Jordan in to replace him.

                      If I wasn't completely useless on the "puter" I would try and embed the "One Down" track from Harold Land "The Fox" album - you can hear it on Youtube.

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                      • aka Calum Da Jazbo
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 9173

                        #12
                        thanks for those observations elmo

                        According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                        • elmo
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #13
                          Doh..... Thanks for helping me out Calum

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                          • Serial_Apologist
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
                            thanks for those observations elmo
                            Yeah thanks for posting this clip Calum - not having heard this album since I was at school, had forgotten how good it is.

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                            • elmo
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                              • Nov 2010
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                              #15
                              Alyn
                              What's the chance of a Jazz Library programme on Elmo? he is certainly worthy of it - Bluesnik could be the co presenter......

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