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  • aka Calum Da Jazbo
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    • Nov 2010
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    Why Jazz Matters

    Jazz is an African American music with two defining features; improvisation and rhythmic excitement.
    It began some 100 years ago in the cultural cauldron of New Orleans and the Caribbean with its heritage of colonialism, slavery, and trade.Although primarily an African American art, the miscgeny of culture and peoples is reflected in the music.

    The first genius of Jazz, Louis Armstrong, led the art of improvisation on a path of virtuosic performance. Virtuosity became a key requirement for stature as a jazz artist; the jam session after hours became the testing and development ground for talent.

    Virtuosic improvisation with rhythmic excitement and "swing" attained popularity and was carried by commercial platforms [dance halls, records, radio] to a wider audience. In the peak of this popularity in the 1930s and 1940s jazz artists developed an alternative to the commercial ethos with individual performers adopting a recital mode, with the concert hall and festival stage as their preferred arena.

    Jazz, carried by commerce, and the spread of American culture generally, was accelerated as a global art form by the Second World War - the movement of people and cultural exchange entrenched jazz in Europe where it was already popular, and in Asia and Australasia. Since that war jazz has also developed further presence in South America.

    The innovations and enhanced virtuosity of the music in the 1940s and 1950s took the music away from the commercial platform and created a global minority audience; and a growing number of non-American artists. The Lennox School and Third Stream movement established the first academic recognition of Jazz. It is now a substantial curriculum element in most major centres of music education.

    It is an art form that speaks across the globe. It flourishes in major cities with high creativity in their populations, it has appeal for many people who live in open, tolerant, multi-ethnic cultures and cities.

    Since its beginnings Jazz has demonstrated an amazing ability to enter and subvert conventional culture, it is never the art of the Establishment; always the dissident, the demi-monde, the bohemian. Yet it has become a truly global art form and has an amazing ability to replicate across boundaries and borders.

    Jazz expresses the rejection of the slavery and colonialism of its historical roots and the racism of its country of origin. It expresses the liberation of the individual, the natural flow of individual experience, the mutuality of ensemble performance and the necessity for personal dedication and development.

    It requires of its audience a similar dedication and openness to experience. It does not offer reassurance and comfort, but challenge and exhilaration.

    It is one of the most significant art forms of the modern world.

    What then is to be the stance of Radio 3 to Jazz?
    According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.
  • Serial_Apologist
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    • Dec 2010
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    #2
    I don't know if those words are your's, calum, but they put the case in a nutshell.

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    • aka Calum Da Jazbo
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      • Nov 2010
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      #3
      mea culpa
      According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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      • Serial_Apologist
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        • Dec 2010
        • 37856

        #4
        Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
        mea culpa
        Tua beneficato - to cobble some pidgin La'in together

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        • remdataram
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          • Mar 2011
          • 154

          #5
          Whilst the 'case' for jazz has been very well put, it is surely the case that any 'art' that I like should be preserved and those I don't can perish?

          We can build similar arguments for Maori music, Cameroon music, Lithuanian art Masters etc.

          The dilemma facing the BBC is how much can it spend on any small minority of viewers or listeners when it is publically funded?

          I like classical and jazz music, but accept I am part of a dwindling minority - sadly!

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          • aka Calum Da Jazbo
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            • Nov 2010
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            #6
            i think the point of describing as above is that it is precisely to avoid the utilitarian counting of whistling heads and to argue from the virtue and vitality of the art for a more fitting representation ...

            as to public funding i am afraid i have long since cared less how i pay for it, in the license fee or subscription - both are public funding eh? no one could ask how much you had paid in taxes and deny you an operation on the grounds of an unfair burden of cost [or more alarmingly vice versa you must have an ectomy you have more than paid for it] ...the debate is much more about the virtuous allocation of funds to doing the thing well ...perhaps surprisingly this is actually the argument for high fees to popular performers ... the market rate for doing it well or uniquely ie Thompson argued that Ross was value for money to the BBC and its mass audience


            in recent times the case can be made that R3 is neither allocating a reasonable funding nor doing it well enough and is in consequence failing the art ... and it is, because it it does count whistling heads, beginning to fail the other arts as well, pace the thread on Michael White [the music critic] and his remarks on R3 ...

            i take your point for other musics, and their case should be put ... though i do draw the line at Inuit Nose Flute recitals
            Last edited by aka Calum Da Jazbo; 14-09-11, 11:11.
            According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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            • John Wright
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              • Mar 2007
              • 705

              #7
              jazbo, an interesting little essay, thank you, but may I make a couple of points/opinions.

              You say,

              Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
              Jazz is an African American music with two defining features; improvisation and rhythmic excitement.
              Surely it's more correct to say jazz originated as African American music. After about 1923 it became commonly played and composed also by white and jewish folks in US, France and UK, and orchestration by dance bands then heavily influenced the genre.

              and then you say

              Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
              The innovations and enhanced virtuosity of the music in the 1940s and 1950s took the music away from the commercial platform and created a global minority audience
              I would suggest that in the 1940s/50s bebop performance alienated much of the jazz audience and the genre soon retained only a minority audience.
              - - -

              John W

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              • MrGongGong
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                • Nov 2010
                • 18357

                #8
                Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post

                i take your point for other musics, and their case should be put ... though i do draw the line at Inuit Nose Flute recitals
                As far as i'm aware the nose flute is mainly found in Polynesia (and some parts of Africa) surely you are referring to singing styles such as Katadjak ? all of which deserves a home on Radio 3 (along with Jazz)

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                • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                  Late member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 9173

                  #9
                  i swear i have heard Inuit Nose Flute Blues on Late Junction .... but then again ...
                  According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                  • MrGongGong
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 18357

                    #10
                    you must know this though ?




                    genius

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                    • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                      Late member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 9173

                      #11
                      Mr GongGong you link to one of the gods .....

                      well the new arrangements from £3 are now clear; half the budget for Jazz Library, graveyard only scheduling and thin production values for the rest ....... it is a crime against the art, a grubby side lining of the genius your link exemplifies MrGongGong ... it must be disheartening for Alyn Shipton and Julian Joseph and i would like them to know how depressing it is for their listeners ....


                      meanwhile i can only offer NPR for the scene in the USA and Arte tv for France as examplles of what can be attained

                      and there is JazzFM on dab radio


                      i readily agree that the short piece at the top of the thread is a most incomplete history but that was not the intent, i wanted to express the importance of jazz
                      According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                      • Serial_Apologist
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                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37856

                        #12
                        Anyone listening to Gunther Schuller being interviewed by Tom Service on Music Matters? Not to be missed - a hope they put this on the iPlayer.

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                        • aka Calum Da Jazbo
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 9173

                          #13
                          Anyone listening to Gunther Schuller being interviewed by Tom Service on Music Matters? Not to be missed - a hope they put this on the iPlayer.
                          YEP!!!
                          According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                          • PatrickOD

                            #14
                            Ditto.
                            One of the best programmes I've ever heard. Makes me want to start all over again from scratch. And what a nice man GS is, and what a pleasant interview.

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                            • Serial_Apologist
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                              • Dec 2010
                              • 37856

                              #15
                              Originally posted by PatrickOD View Post
                              Ditto.
                              One of the best programmes I've ever heard. Makes me want to start all over again from scratch. And what a nice man GS is, and what a pleasant interview.
                              Yes, one of those "don't get me started" types, but in the very best of possible senses, for his endless enthusiasm and apparently undimmed optimism. Much of the interview concentrated on Schuller's classical works and relations with his contemporaries, but given that GS sees no qualitiative differences between the best from any musical genres, this wasn't an issue for me. (And I love what orchestral music of his I've heard in any case).

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