"Potentially uplifting melodies, meditative grooves and soothing sounds..."

[Serial_Apologist]

Sat 20 May
5pm - J to Z
Jumoké Fashola with new and classic jazz, today featuring potentially uplifting melodies, meditative grooves and soothing sounds to mark Mental Health Awareness Week. And UK singer/songwriter Nao (Neo Joshua), host or Radio 3's The Music and Meditation Podcast, shares tracks she finds restorative.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001lzdz

12midnight - Freeness
Corey Mwamba shares improvised music with the human voice at its centre, as well as a conversation on poetry and sound with poet Fred Moten, bassist Brandon Lopez and drummer Gerald Cleaver, who as a trio have released a self-titled debut album.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001lzf7

Sun 21 May
4pm - Jazz Record Requests

http://www.alynshipton.co.uk/blog

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001lzfm

Some interesting S African jazz on Friday's Late Junction at 11pm, too.

[eighthobstruction]

....I love potential....

[Serial_Apologist]

....I love potential....

It's always a possibility!

[Ian Thumwood]

FFS. How can you bill a jazz programme as having "up-lifting melodies , mediative grooves and soothing sounds? " Surely this is the antithesis of what jazz is about? Who is commissioning these kinds of programmes ? I am guessing this programme won't include any Albert Ayler, then ?

Btw, Jazzrook, did you ever get your Albert Ayler track played as requested ?

Having to contend with Barrett is making me angry. As Boris would say, there is someone who needs their lights punched out. Where are Bluesnik and Joseph ? I suppose the latter is out at jazz gigs with his Grandma again?

[RichardB]

Having to contend with Barrett is making me angry.

Don't talk rubbish about Beethoven then!

[Ian Thumwood]

Don't talk rubbish about Beethoven then!

Fair enough but I was only expressing an opinion. As I said, I have the sheet music and can look at this at my piano over the weekend. We may have to beg to differ ( as is usually the case with nearly everything !) but I am prepared to give the music another listen. As I said , Beethoven is not my bag even if I like the symphonies.

Not sure that Beethoven would get cut as much slack in here as over in the dark side.

[RichardB]

Fair enough but I was only expressing an opinion.

Put it like this. I'm not going to post on the jazz board that I don't much like the work of James P Johnson because it wasn't part of the lineage of Xenakis's piano music!

[Serial_Apologist]

Put it like this. I'm not going to post on the jazz board that I don't much like the work of James P Johnson because it wasn't part of the lineage of Xenakis's piano music!

It's all down to different perspectives, and thus not surprising that aficionados approaching different types of music outside their customary range will clash in making comparisons. I think I can see where the disagreements here lie and I think I know why, having been lucky in myself having come to jazz and C20 classical musics at the same time during a strongly formative period for me, which somehow guided me into the different critical criteria respectively applicable in each case without mixing them up.

[RichardB]

which somehow guided me into the different critical criteria respectively applicable in each case without mixing them up.

I think the only reason critical criteria for different musics need to be different would be if all the criteria are too narrow, which surely is an artificial way to listen given that for each individual it's the same ears and mind listening.

[Ein Heldenleben]

FFS. How can you bill a jazz programme as having "up-lifting melodies , mediative grooves and soothing sounds? " Surely this is the antithesis of what jazz is about? Who is commissioning these kinds of programmes ? I am guessing this programme won't include any Albert Ayler, then ?

Btw, Jazzrook, did you ever get your Albert Ayler track played as requested ?

Having to contend with Barrett is making me angry. As Boris would say, there is someone who needs their lights punched out. Where are Bluesnik and Joseph ? I suppose the latter is out at jazz gigs with his Grandma again?

The whole mental health awareness week on Radio 3 and especially the drippy student bedsit stuff being played on the In Tune mixtape is annoying me so much it’s endangering my mental health.

[Old Grumpy]

The whole mental health awareness week on Radio 3 and especially the drippy student bedsit stuff being played on the In Tune mixtape is annoying me so much it’s endangering my mental health.

at your post, that is - not the serious subject matter, of course

[Ein Heldenleben]

at your post, that is - not the serious subject matter, of course

The problem with mental health awareness week is we get a lot of syrupy music and words but no analysis of the serious mental health issues - like the long waits for care, the scarcity of psychiatrists and mental health nurses, inpatient beds , the poor prospects for those with schizophrenia, severe depression , drug and alcohol addiction. There are some very very serious problems out there - ones that i spent a considerable part of my career covering as a journalist - but mental health awareness week (as covered by Radio 3 ) is pretty much a sticking plaster on a gaping wound.

[Serial_Apologist]

The problem with mental health awareness week is we get a lot of syrupy music and words but no analysis of the serious mental health issues - like the long waits for care, the scarcity of psychiatrists and mental health nurses, inpatient beds , the poor prospects for those with schizophrenia, severe depression , drug and alcohol addiction. There are some very very serious problems out there - ones that i spent a considerable part of my career covering as a journalist - but mental health awareness week (as covered by Radio 3 ) is pretty much a sticking plaster on a gaping wound.

I came across ad for New Age psychotherapeutics, and it struck me how such "therapies" have been used since the 1970s in our so-called "advanced" civilisations as sticking plasters for covering up and coping with the consequences of all the needless confected wrongs in our latter-day lifestyles. The place for such therapies would be genuinely spiritually liberating and life-enhancing were we living in an inclusive society meeting prime needs. One of the the main messages offered by jazz consisted in the possibilities it afforded for challenging implanted presuppositions in a spirit of positivity, and organising society collectively to solve problems creatively.

[Jazzrook]

FFS. How can you bill a jazz programme as having "up-lifting melodies , mediative grooves and soothing sounds? " Surely this is the antithesis of what jazz is about? Who is commissioning these kinds of programmes ? I am guessing this programme won't include any Albert Ayler, then ?

Btw, Jazzrook, did you ever get your Albert Ayler track played as requested ?

Having to contend with Barrett is making me angry. As Boris would say, there is someone who needs their lights punched out. Where are Bluesnik and Joseph ? I suppose the latter is out at jazz gigs with his Grandma again?

No, I didn't get my Albert Ayler request played. Tried JRR & J to Z but no response.
Hard to understand this aversion to AA with Radio 3 jazz programmes.
Here's the track I requested from Nuiis De La Fondation Maeght recorded on July 27, 1970 with Call Cobb's Jr., Steve Tintweiss & Allen Blairman.
Sounds quite therapeutic to me!

https://www.YouTube.com/watch?v=yNK7ovE1Rgc

JR

[Ian Thumwood]

Maybe they will play Thelnious Monk's "Nutty" or Joe Venuti's "Cheese and crackers?"