R3 hates jazz and is trying to kill off jazz on the radio

[eighthobstruction]

My first experience of USA was being dropped off by a BBC producer Ian McGahey(?) of Omnibus [who i met on the plane] on Sunset Strip at the top of a hill with either a train carriage or tram carriage being used as a diner....oppossite was a hotel or something with a most unsightly but interesting ventilation system on the outside of the building (galvanised but slowly rusting prob' from 50's)....instant culture shock with heat and the industrial estate layout of roads....and distance to my next meet at Sevulvida Drive [if i remember correctly] (prob' don't]....or thinking again maybe it was Hollywood Blvde....

[charles t]

My first experience of USA was being dropped off by a BBC producer Ian McGahey(?) of Omnibus [who i met on the plane] on Sunset Strip at the top of a hill with either a train carriage or tram carriage being used as a diner....oppossite was a hotel or something with a most unsightly but interesting ventilation system on the outside of the building (galvanised but slowly rusting prob' from 50's)....instant culture shock with heat and the industrial estate layout of roads....and distance to my next meet at Sevulvida Drive [if i remember correctly] (prob' don't]....or thinking again maybe it was Hollywood Blvde....

hence said poster was transformed, for better or worse, on Sepulveda (or, as I pronounce for my MA Spanish degree wife: Sepulveeda).

[Pilchardman]

Well, it turns out that I just never hear Jazz Library any more. The new time is just not a time I'll ever be listening to the radio. I can't record it off Freeview, since I'm in Scotland and Radio3 isn't on Freeview during the hours that BBC Alba airs. And I don't listen to the radio on Listen Again on my computer, as I don't find it convenient, comfortable, or of satisfactory sound quality.

I gave it some months to see if I could retrain myself; I tried the Listen Again thing, but I just find I never actually do it.

It's a shame, since Saturday afternoon was the only scheduled listening I did on Radio 3, being more of a jazz fan than a "classical" fan. I did tune in randomly at other times, but now I find the other programmes I happen upon aren't really to my taste in style of presentation. Now that I don't have World Routes and Jazz Library to keep me listening through Saturday afternoon, I even find I usually miss JRR.

So, goodbye Radio 3. It was nice while it lasted.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

i am sorry for your predicament Pilchardman which i find tragic ..... i suspect [eg from the lower reaction to threads on the programmes] that many share your difficulties and displeasure with the situation of jazz on R3 and listen much less if at all to the station's jazz output

[Byas'd Opinion]

I can't record it off Freeview, since I'm in Scotland and Radio3 isn't on Freeview during the hours that BBC Alba airs. And I don't listen to the radio on Listen Again on my computer, as I don't find it convenient, comfortable, or of satisfactory sound quality.

I pretty much agree with Pilchardman. I still listen a bit, but less than I used to. The problem with late night shows is that I'm either too tired to listen properly when they come on, or can't stay up late because I've got work the next day. Listen Again is a poor substitute.

Does anyone know if the listening figures for Jazz Library have changed much since it moved to the midnight slot? It's an excellent programme, but I must confess I haven't heard it often recently.

[cloughie]

Well, it turns out that I just never hear Jazz Library any more. The new time is just not a time I'll ever be listening to the radio. I can't record it off Freeview, since I'm in Scotland and Radio3 isn't on Freeview during the hours that BBC Alba airs. And I don't listen to the radio on Listen Again on my computer, as I don't find it convenient, comfortable, or of satisfactory sound quality.

I gave it some months to see if I could retrain myself; I tried the Listen Again thing, but I just find I never actually do it.

It's a shame, since Saturday afternoon was the only scheduled listening I did on Radio 3, being more of a jazz fan than a "classical" fan. I did tune in randomly at other times, but now I find the other programmes I happen upon aren't really to my taste in style of presentation. Now that I don't have World Routes and Jazz Library to keep me listening through Saturday afternoon, I even find I usually miss JRR.

So, goodbye Radio 3. It was nice while it lasted.

Not perfect but more than acceptable to record iplayer via freecorder.

[Pilchardman]

Not perfect but more than acceptable to record iplayer via freecorder.

What is freecorder? And wouldn't I still have to listen to it on my computer, unless I burned it to a CD?

[Quarky]

. And I don't listen to the radio on Listen Again on my computer, as I don't find it convenient, comfortable, or of satisfactory sound quality.
So, goodbye Radio 3. It was nice while it lasted.

You have my sympathies Pilchardman. I am completely the opposite however, in that most of my listening to Radio 3 is via computer / listen again. I guess I'm more willing to put up with reduced sound quality.

However to be honest, and admitting that Jazz Library at its best has produced some stunning programmes, I don't think you missed much last Saturday - Harry James playing Flight of the Bumblebee and other show stoppers. I guess an archivist might find this type of programme of some interest, but I just felt it was a waste of a one hour Jazz programme.

[MarkG]

The Barney Bigard playlist is still not up on the website for some reason.


Mark

[Alyn_Shipton]

No idea why. Here it is:

Barney Bigard

DISC 1
Title Barney’s Bounce
Artist Zutty Singleton Trio
Composer Bigard
Album Barney’s Bounce
Label Living Era
Number 5507 Track 1

Personnel: Barney Bigard, cl; Freddie Washington, p; Zutty Singleton drums, 1944.


DISC 2
Title Someday Sweetheart
Artist King Oliver
Composer Morton, Spikes
Album King Oliver 1926-28
Label Classics
Number 618 Track 1

Personnel: King Oliver, Bob Shoffner, c; Kid Ory, tb; Johnny Dodds, Darnell Howard, Stump Evans, Barney Bigard, reeds; Luis Russell, p; Bud Scott, bj; Bert Cobb, tu; Paul Barbarin d. 23 July 1926.


DISC 3
Title Turtle Twist
Artist Jelly Roll Morton Trio
Composer Morton
Album The Essential Collection
Label Avid
Number 890 CD 2 Track 16

Personnel: Barney Bigard, cl; Jelly Roll Morton, p; Zutty Singleton, d. 17 Dec 1929.

DISC 4
Title Jungle Nights In Harlem
Artist Duke Ellington and his Cotton Club Orchestra
Composer Ellington
Album Jungle Nights In Harlem
Label Bluebird
Number 2499-2-RB Track 14

Personnel: Duke Ellington, p; Cootie Williams, Freddie Jenkins, Artie Whetsel, t; Joe Nanton, tb; Juan Tizol, vtb; Barney Bigard, cl; Johnny Hodges, as; Harry Carney, bar; Fred Guy, bj; Wellman Braud, b; Sonny Greer, d. June 4, 1930

DISC 5
Title Clarinet Lament (Barney’s Concerto)
Artist Duke Ellington and his Orchestra
Composer Ellington / Bigard
Album Masterpieces 1926-1949
Label Proper
Number Properbox 25 CD 2 Track 13

Personnel: Duke Ellington, p; Rex Stewart, c; Cootie Williams, Artie Whetsel, t; Joe Nanton, Lawrence Brown, tb; Juan Tizol, vtb; Barney Bigard, cl; Johnny Hodges, as; Otto Hardwick, ts; Harry Carney, bar; Fred Guy, g; Hayes Alvis, b; Sonny Greer, d. 27 Feb 1936.

DISC 6
Title I Know That You Know
Artist Rex Stewart Feetwarmers
Composer Youmans, Caldwell.
Album Rexatious
Label Living Era14
Number 5200 Track 14

Personnel: Rex Stewart, c; Barney Bigard, cl; Django Reinhardt, g; Billy Taylor, b; Paris 5 April 1939.
Also on Django Reinhardt, Americans in Paris, vol. 2. On Naxos.

DISC 7
Title Barney Goin’ Easy
Artist Barney Bigard Jazzopators
Composer Bigard
Album Barney’s Bounce
Label Living Era
Number Track 8

Personnel: Rex Stewart, c; Barney Bigard, cl; Juan Tizol, vtb; Harry Carney, bar; Duke Ellington, p; Fred Guy, g; Billy Taylor, b; Sonny Greer, d; Billy Strayhorn, arr. 8 June 1939.

DISC 8
Title Harlem Airshaft
Artist Duke Ellington Orchestra
Composer Ellington
Album Masterpieces 1926-1949
Label Proper
Number Properbox 25 CD 3 Track 19

Personnel: Duke Ellington, p; Rex Stewart, c; Cootie Williams, Wallace Jones, t; Joe Nanton, Lawrence Brown, tb; Juan Tizol, vtb; Barney Bigard, cl; Johnny Hodges, as; Otto Hardwick, as; Ben Webster, ts; Harry Carney, bar; Fred Guy, g; Jimmy Blanton, b; Sonny Greer, d. 22 July 1940.

DISC 9
Title A Lull At Dawn
Artist Barney Bigard & His Orchestra
Composer Ellington
Album Barney’s Bounce
Label Living Era
Number 5507 Track 8

Personnel: Ray Nance, t; Barney Bigard, cl; Juan Tizol, vtb; Harry Carney, bar; Duke Ellington, p; Jimmy Blanton, b; Sonny Greer, d; 11 Nov 1940.


DISC 10
Title Ain’t Goin’ Nowhere
Artist Peggy Lee & Capitol Jazzmen
Composer Dick Larkin
Album The Lost 40s and 50s Capitol Masters
Label EMI / Collectors’Choice
Number 08530-2 CD 1 Track 1

Personnel: Peggy Lee, v; Shorty Sherock, t; Barney Bigard, cl; Lee Robinson, as; Eddie Miller, ts; Pete Johnson, p; Nappy Lamare, g; Hank Wayland, b; Nick Fatool, d. 7 Jan 1944.


DISC 11
Title Tiger Rag
Artist Kid Ory and His Creole Jazz band
Composer La Rocca
Album Complete Columbia Sessions 1946
Label American Music
Number AMCD 121 Track 5

Personnel: Mutt Carey, t; Barney Bigard, cl; Kid Ory, tb; Buster Wilson, p; Bud Scott, g; Ed Garland, b; Minor Hall, d. Oct 1946.



DISC 12
Title High Society
Artist Louis Armstrong and his All-Stars
Composer Piron / Steele
Album Complete NY Town Hall and Symphony Hall Concerts
Label Definitive
Number 11291 CD 2 Track 12

Personnel: Louis Armstrong, t; Barney Bigard, cl; Jack Teagarden, tb; Dick Carey, p; Arvell Shaw, b; Sid Catlett, d. Boston Symphony Hall, 30 Nov 1947.

DISC 13
Title Mood Indigo
Artist Louis Armstrong and Duke Ellington
Composer Ellington,
Album The Great Summit
Label Blue Note
Number 938047 CD 1 Track 4

Personnel: Louis Armstrong (vocals, trumpet); Duke Ellington (piano); Trummy Young (trombone); Barney Bigard (clarinet); Mort Herbert (bass); Danny Barcelona (drums). March/April 1961.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

...many thanks Alyn

[MarkG]

Thanks. Great.

[Serial_Apologist]

So - it it true then what it says in Jazzwise that Jazz Library is being axed next month?

We have been informed there would be less programmes and more repeats, but not if think that we were losing JL altogether.

That would be a catastrophe in terms of quality jazz presentation on the wireless - Radio 3 or anywhere.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

Veteran broadcaster Geoffrey Smith is to step down from presenting Jazz Record Requests, the long running Radio 3 Saturday afternoon listeners’ request show, which he has presented since 1991. Alyn Shipton, who presents Jazz Library until next month when that show is to be axed, takes the Michigan-born Smith’s place with a plan to draw in a broader, and slightly younger listenership to the venerable JRR, Radio 3’s most listened-to jazz show.

Smith is believed to be about to begin a new show on Radio 3 called Geoffrey's Jazz.

and could well incur the wrath of the station’s fearsome lobbying group the Friends of Radio 3.

"Geoffrey Smith is an important part of the BBC Radio 3 jazz presenting team," a Radio 3 spokesperson says. "His new show Geoffrey’s Jazz will launch later this year and will be a personal view of jazz, its history, its players and key themes. With Alyn Shipton taking over Jazz Record Requests, Radio 3 continues to be committed to jazz across the station with the same number of shows dedicated to exploring this important genre.”

http://www.jazzwisemagazine.com/

it must be true they haven't told us

[Serial_Apologist]

I Did tee a puddydat!