R3 hates jazz and is trying to kill off jazz on the radio

[old khayyam]

Surely OK means Saturday?

Quite possibly

[Quarky]

Well Jazz lives on in corners of Radio 3.

Emir Kusturica had a show at the London Jazz Festival - http://www.londonjazzfestival.org.uk...estra-LJF-2011

This was recorded and played by Mary Anne Kennedy last friday http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...programme-info

Worth listening to, even if just for Mary Anne.

Not what you would usually term Jazz - there were a few bars of "straight ahead" Jazz , if I understand the term correctly - but good fun. The lead singer apparently makes Mick Jagger look like a paraplegic.

But the basic problem for Jazz on R3 seems to me that with the death of Humphrey Lyttleton, Jazz can no longer rely on the old-boy network. It does have to make its peace with Roger Wright.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

It does have to make its peace with Roger Wright.

nah that won't happen

[Pilchardman]

Roger Wright seems to want Jazz on Radio 3 to rest in peace.

[french frank]

Well, as one first step, what would you ask for? A daytime slot for Jazz Library?

[Pilchardman]

Well, as one first step, what would you ask for? A daytime slot for Jazz Library?

Yup. That is what I've asked for. No reply so far.

[Old Grumpy]

Yup. That is what I've asked for. No reply so far.

Seconded...


... Motion Carried!

[barber olly]

Seconded...


... Motion Carried!

How about Sunday lunchtime - The celebrity seeking Private Passions is well beyond its sell-by date and it will save money in guest fees, (also can be applied to EC), and while we are at it let's reinstate Jazz Legends (a magical long lamented breath of fresh air) on Saturday lunchtimes. No I'm not a lifetime jazzer, but my ageing ears wish to add to my musical learning curve.

[old khayyam]

I certainly wouldnt mind if jazz on R3 occupied a late slot as long as it concentrates on the more advanced forms of jazz that people are really interested in. The little i've heard lately sets the genre back a hundred years.

[MrGongGong]

I certainly wouldnt mind if jazz on R3 occupied a late slot as long as it concentrates on the more advanced forms of jazz that people are really interested in. .

So does it appeal to Rabbits ? Sheep ? Dogs ?

[Quarky]

I certainly wouldnt mind if jazz on R3 occupied a late slot as long as it concentrates on the more advanced forms of jazz that people are really interested in. The little i've heard lately sets the genre back a hundred years.

This certainly raises in my mind a lot of issues that have been previously discussed in other threads. Although can't give any answers, issues to my mind are:

1. 95% of my listening to Radio 3 is on iPlayer, which includes Jazz programmes (apart from recent Bebop COTW). All minority interest programmes on Radio 3 are usually relegated to late-night slots, so Jazz may not be singled out.
2. Jazz has had a short life span, but huge changes have taken place in that time period. So we have Jazz bands and Jazz musicians that are currently working but play all these different forms of Jazz (are there any of the original New Orleans Jazzers still functioning?) But in this respect it is no different from classical music, where there are musicians specialising in the various time periods from Hildegard of Bingham to Rebecca Saunders.
3. Should Jazz on Radio 3 concentrate on one particular type of Jazz - given the limited time available?
4. By common consent Jazz gets a poor deal from the BBC. Radio 2 perhaps has even less Jazz than Radio 3 - but I did enjoy Jamie Cullum last night (Gregory Porter!)
5. Jazz deserves its own radio station of course.
6. Jazz FM is the only UK based radio programme I know. There are good shows in Jazz FM - Sarah Ward, and frequently the breakfast show - but usually it is rather bland soul, R&B, pop. Dinner Jazz frightens me away.

No answers I am afraid - but my feeling is that Jazz's natural environment is not a classical music station.

[Serial_Apologist]

(are there any of the original New Orleans Jazzers still functioning?)

They run into their hundreds.

I'll get me banjo...

[handsomefortune]

yes, i had a really sound sleep through the second half of regina carter's violin playing, plus 'jl' interview at the weekend ....mainly because it sounds much better on either of my radios than on my pc...

pc listening turns into an exercise of watching the coloured circular thingies mutating, whilst waiting patiently for the iplayer to unstick.

who 'dares' move the cursor on their iplayer these days? i can't even do this anymore .....it's just not having it, and sticks immediately after.

so much for the supposed 'autonomy' of iplayer - it's useful in being able to access repeats ....but that's all.

How about Sunday lunchtime

yes, would be great, i could pay a lot more attention, rather than being beckoned into the land of nod, like an ancient sleepaholic.

[Serial_Apologist]

pc listening turns into an exercise of watching the coloured circular thingies mutating, whilst waiting patiently for the iplayer to unstick.

Dearie me... you really should get off the substances, handsome. First men in their Y fronts at Levensons and now this... What must Mr Handsome think???

who 'dares' move the cursor on their iplayer these days? i can't even do this anymore .....it's just not having it, and sticks immediately after.

There really should be a computer equivalent to castor oil or rhubarb available in retailers for dealing with this sort of blockage...

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

there is as much point talking to R3 and RW in specific or general terms about jazz programmes as the dalai lama chatting to the chinese politburo about the future of Tibet, ... we must just sit it out ......

who said R3 is a 'classical music station'? ..... certainly not RW at various points in history ... and it is is not a classical music station, it is a station which, inter alia, plays classical music ...