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  • Serial_Apologist
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    • Dec 2010
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    Nether lands from Dave Holland, alternative states.

    Sat 27 Nov
    5pm - J to Z

    Julian Joseph with the finest new jazz alongside classics of the genre, featuring guests and exclusive sessions and gigs. Tonight he invites English bassist Dave Holland to share some of the music that inspired him as a young musician. Holland, who is now 74 and has worked with Miles Davis, Thelonious Monk and Chick Corea, describes the huge impact that John Coltrane's A Love Supreme had upon its release in 1965.

    A repeat, but well worth another listen.

    Legendary jazz bassist Dave Holland shares some of the music that inspires him.


    12midnight - Freeness
    Corey Mwamba with new jazz and improvised music, tonight with electronic and found sounds conjuring new worlds. Drummer and composer Tyshawn Sorey teams up with synthesist and producer King Britt for polyrhythmic time travelling. Also exploring alternative states are the duo of double bassist Una MacGlone and pianist Jim McEwan, who take inspiration from the remote environs of the Scottish Hoy coastal lines and North Sea that surrounds it.

    Corey Mwamba presents electronic and found sounds to conjure new worlds.


    Sun 28 Nov
    4.30pm - Jazz Record Requests

    Alyn Shipton with requests including a recording by Pee Wee Ellis, who died in September, aged 80.

    Note time change.



    Alyn Shipton presents jazz records of all styles as requested by you.


    People might wish to check out:

    6.45 Sunday Feature: Afterwords
    Reflections on the life and work of the Jamaican-British academic, writer and cultural studies pioneer Stuart Hall (1932-2014).

    A diamond of a bloke, much missed.

    I haven't yet checked the TV schedules.
  • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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    • Dec 2010
    • 4314

    #2
    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
    Sat 27 Nov
    5pm - J to Z

    Julian Joseph with the finest new jazz alongside classics of the genre, featuring guests and exclusive sessions and gigs. Tonight he invites English bassist Dave Holland to share some of the music that inspired him as a young musician. Holland, who is now 74 and has worked with Miles Davis, Thelonious Monk and Chick Corea, describes the huge impact that John Coltrane's A Love Supreme had upon its release in 1965.

    A repeat, but well worth another listen.

    Legendary jazz bassist Dave Holland shares some of the music that inspires him.


    12midnight - Freeness
    Corey Mwamba with new jazz and improvised music, tonight with electronic and found sounds conjuring new worlds. Drummer and composer Tyshawn Sorey teams up with synthesist and producer King Britt for polyrhythmic time travelling. Also exploring alternative states are the duo of double bassist Una MacGlone and pianist Jim McEwan, who take inspiration from the remote environs of the Scottish Hoy coastal lines and North Sea that surrounds it.

    Corey Mwamba presents electronic and found sounds to conjure new worlds.


    Sun 28 Nov
    4.30pm - Jazz Record Requests

    Alyn Shipton with requests including a recording by Pee Wee Ellis, who died in September, aged 80.

    Note time change.



    Alyn Shipton presents jazz records of all styles as requested by you.


    People might wish to check out:

    6.45 Sunday Feature: Afterwords
    Reflections on the life and work of the Jamaican-British academic, writer and cultural studies pioneer Stuart Hall (1932-2014).

    A diamond of a bloke, much missed.

    I haven't yet checked the TV schedules.
    From a Guardian piece a few years back about a film of Stuart Hall's life....

    "Akomfrah emphasises this theme by giving a Miles Davis soundtrack to the scenes of postwar Britain; smoggy London is cast in a kind of blue light. As Hall recalls: "Miles Davis put his finger on my soul and it never went away."

    Akomfrah adds: "I always knew Stuart had an interest in jazz, but I had no idea really of the depth of that; again in conversations it became clear this was really a shaping force for him."

    "And the more we got into it, the more I realised that there was an affinity in the way the two of them went about things: very alive to the moment, to what was going on at any given time, and responding."

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    • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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      • Dec 2010
      • 4314

      #3
      Stuart Hall excert...Miles Davis,

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      • Jazzrook
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        • Mar 2011
        • 3109

        #4
        Originally posted by BLUESNIK'S REVOX View Post
        Stuart Hall excert...Miles Davis,
        http://youtu.be/s-Yp9oHV_oU
        Many thanks BN & S_A.
        Have always admired Stuart Hall and will listen to his 'Sunday Feature' on Radio 3.
        Must also get round to seeing the DVD of 'The Stuart Hall Project'.

        JR

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        • Serial_Apologist
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          • Dec 2010
          • 37814

          #5
          Have to say how much I enjoyed re-listening to Dave Holland talking about his early influences on record - especially in talking about "Masquerello" from "Sorcerer", which tends rather to get overlooked in re-examinings but I now realise to have been one of the most remarkable tracks from that whole pre-"Silent Way" period. For some reason I missed the early Herbie Hancock track first time around on this programme, but what a track eh? I found myself cheering to the skies where Sco comes in, continuing Herbie's last phrase at the start of his own solo, just showing how a great improviser can cancel any pre-intentions and just respond, and the way the pianist reverts so appositely to playing held chords behind Brecker as he comes in, contrasting with his earlier more staccato comps. Small things like this can just make a jazz performance. This was a good edition of the programme as a whole - I'm still buzzing!

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          • Joseph K
            Banned
            • Oct 2017
            • 7765

            #6
            In that case, I'll be certain to check it out.

            Thanks for the recommendation, S_A.

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            • Serial_Apologist
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              • Dec 2010
              • 37814

              #7
              Originally posted by Joseph K View Post
              In that case, I'll be certain to check it out.

              Thanks for the recommendation, S_A.
              I hope I haven't hyped it up too much!

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              • Old Grumpy
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                • Jan 2011
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                #8
                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                I hope I haven't hyped it up too much!
                No, S_A, you haven't. I was listening in the car on the way back from the deep South (Wiltshire) in Arwenian wind and snow and probably couldn't appreciate the finer nuances...

                But hey, Dave Holland, respect!. I will have to have a re-listen in more relaxing circumstances

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                • Serial_Apologist
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 37814

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
                  No, S_A, you haven't. I was listening in the car on the way back from the deep South (Wiltshire) in Arwenian wind and snow and probably couldn't appreciate the finer nuances...

                  But hey, Dave Holland, respect!. I will have to have a re-listen in more relaxing circumstances


                  Amazed to be hearing John Lewis's Sketch just now - the MJQ + Jimmy Giuffre and string quartet. I was given this album, with its extraordinary cover, an amoeba-like blob pencil sketch with finger nails attached to its outer proturbances filling the entire gold-coloured LP cover, by a cousin as my 21st birthday present - 1966. A friend of a friend - a French girl of stunning beauty! - was mad about this particular track, and reportedly played it daily from morning to night when I loaned it out. Funnily enough I never liked this particular track with its faux-Bach harmonies,which I believe set a terrible example to early Prog Rock bands like Deep Purple that this was how to show jazz sophistication. I'd never much liked Jacques Loussier's Bach renditions, falling prey to the accusation that jazz had no need to prove its worth in this way, though the Swingle Singers scatting the bewigged one's fugues could be accepted as of clever novelty value. Now, in bringing stylistic conjunctions up to date (1959) the final track on that very album, pitting the MJQ's falling changes against the strings in the guise of a serial antagonist which interjects before winning the argument, carried deeper implications.

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                  • Joseph K
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2017
                    • 7765

                    #10
                    Hmm do they normally list the tune composer rather than the performer on the J to Z page? I mean I am pleasantly surprised that it's Solar as played by Bill Evans Trio, just...

                    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                    I'd never much liked Jacques Loussier's Bach renditions, falling prey to the accusation that jazz had no need to prove its worth in this way,.
                    You and me both. When I worked briefly in a music shop in Jena the owner would play those renditions all the time..

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                    • Serial_Apologist
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                      • Dec 2010
                      • 37814

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Joseph K View Post
                      Hmm do they normally list the tune composer rather than the performer on the J to Z page? I mean I am pleasantly surprised that it's Solar as played by Bill Evans Trio, just...
                      It says, for the Gentle Warrior track, "Singer: Dave Holland".

                      When I worked briefly in a music shop in Jena the owner would play those renditions all the time..
                      There was a period when those tracks, interspersed with looped renditions of Satie's Gymnopédies, naturally, were used as awkward silence fillers in restaurants. Back in the 80s a friend who worked at Oddbins used to play cassettes of Chris McGregor's Brotherhood of Breath, the 70s stuff, to keep himself and workmate cheered up - a better choice of musak, methinks!

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                      • Quarky
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 2672

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                        Have to say how much I enjoyed re-listening to Dave Holland talking about his early influences on record - especially in talking about "Masquerello" from "Sorcerer", which tends rather to get overlooked in re-examinings but I now realise to have been one of the most remarkable tracks from that whole pre-"Silent Way" period. For some reason I missed the early Herbie Hancock track first time around on this programme, but what a track eh? I found myself cheering to the skies where Sco comes in, continuing Herbie's last phrase at the start of his own solo, just showing how a great improviser can cancel any pre-intentions and just respond, and the way the pianist reverts so appositely to playing held chords behind Brecker as he comes in, contrasting with his earlier more staccato comps. Small things like this can just make a jazz performance. This was a good edition of the programme as a whole - I'm still buzzing!
                        Listening again, I was strongly reminded of Miles' second quartet, particularly Herbie's solo. But this recording some 20 years later than the second quartet.

                        Toccata and Momento Magico were of interest. I'll have to give that some listening time......seems to be a collection of different singing styles....

                        Samara Joy? How will she develop, I wonder?
                        Last edited by Quarky; 29-11-21, 15:30.

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                        • Ian Thumwood
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 4223

                          #13
                          I totally agree about the track "Masquerello" which I would put on a par with the finest of Louis' Hot 5s and 7s.

                          The new Dave Holland album with Obed Calvaire and Kevin Eubanks strikes me as a cross between the great Gateway trio of the past and Dave Holland's "Extensions" quartet without really matching the intensity of thes other bands. I am a massive fan of Dave Holland and have to say that he is always reliable when it comes to the records he puts out However, as good as the new trio is, I would like to see it evolve more to see if it can evolve to the level of his brilliant quintet of the early 2000s. It is a good album.

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