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  • Jazzrook
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    • Mar 2011
    • 3108

    Originally posted by BLUESNIK'S REVOX View Post
    Albert Ayler Quintet, Munich 1966. Ghosts etc.

    I'm not always in the mood for Albert but this does it. And excellent photography which compliments rather than distracts.





    Absolutely wonderful, BN. Many thanks. The music is intensely moving and even better than on the rare Bordeaux video also provided by Jay Korber. Where does he find them?

    Albert Ayler QuintetSigma FestivalBordeaux, France11/14/66Albert Ayler - tenorDonald Ayler - trumpetMichel Samson - violinBill Folwell - bassBeaver Harris - ...


    … and yet more stunning footage of Albert Ayler’s Quintet in Berlin, 1966. Thanks again, Jay Korber!

    Albert Ayler QuintetBerliner Jazztage1966Albert Ayler - tenorDonald Ayler - trumpetMichel Samson - violinBill Folwell - bassBeaver Harris - drums


    JR
    Last edited by Jazzrook; 10-12-24, 20:35.

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    • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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      • Dec 2010
      • 4313

      It is very moving isn't it. And conveys to me what they were about more than some other footage I've seen. There is something "cleansing" about the group particularly after listening to a load of over produced or production line music. Unique.

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      • elmo
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        • Nov 2010
        • 546

        Gosh that's a stunning piece of film both for the music and quality of sound and the filming. I remember when those ESP albums came out in the mid 60's and the ire and scorn that was poured down on Aylers head - how wrong could they be....

        elmo

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        • Ian Thumwood
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          • Dec 2010
          • 4223

          Originally posted by BLUESNIK'S REVOX View Post
          It is very moving isn't it. And conveys to me what they were about more than some other footage I've seen. There is something "cleansing" about the group particularly after listening to a load of over produced or production line music. Unique.
          I probably have a similar view towards Ayler as yourself. What intrigues me is how freely he improvised. Not convinced that he was really the radical when it came to harmony . Always wondered if you notated his playing that he stuck to tonal centres. Sttange that he worked wuth Cecil Taylor who i feel was the complete opppsite and had more musical knowledge than Ayler.

          i have a disc by Dave Liebman of Ornette's music where he muses on the same topic that Coleman was quote orthodox in this resepect. With Ayler, the folk element is far more dominant than any formal musical approach.

          Have to say that i find Donald Ayler an awkward subject given the nature of his crimes after his musical career.

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          • Jazzrook
            Full Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 3108

            More great footage, courtesy of Jay Korber, with Ornette Coleman, Dewey Redman, Charlie Haden & Ed Blackwell, Berlin Jazztage, 1971.
            Most contemporary jazz seems, to me, anaemic in comparison.

            Ornette Coleman GroupBerliner Jazztage 1971Ornette Coleman - alto, trumpet, violinDewey Redman - tenorCharlie Haden - bassEd Blackwell - drums


            JR
            Last edited by Jazzrook; 11-12-24, 12:33.

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            • Serial_Apologist
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              • Dec 2010
              • 37812

              Originally posted by Ian Thumwood View Post

              I probably have a similar view towards Ayler as yourself. What intrigues me is how freely he improvised. Not convinced that he was really the radical when it came to harmony . Always wondered if you notated his playing that he stuck to tonal centres.
              From what I read somewhere, at the start Ayler played relatively conventionally if Sonny Rollins's influence could ever be in such terms. He then enjoyed a spell in the army, and it was after that that his entire approach changed. I must see those clips after I'm done with addressing and posting Xmas cards - thanks very much to Jazzrook.

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              • Ian Thumwood
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                • Dec 2010
                • 4223

                The earliest Ayler tracks sound like a less aasured Sonny Rollins.

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                • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 4313

                  "Hargrove", a hour and a half documentary and interviews with Roy Hargrove at what turned out to be near the end of his life. I knew about all the drug stuff and in truth was a little impatient of that, but this gives you a much fuller picture of his life and issues. For one thing I didn't know he was on dialysis for c. fourteen years from a kidney birth defect. And from the look of his touring schedule and the later interviews was being almost worked to death when he should of been resting. At the end he just looked beaten. A massive talent. This also gives you a picture of "the industry". His manager gets few plaudits and refused to cooperate. No surprise.


                  https://youtu.be/liK1u6DQQ4M?si=3ApiAYXbTuBIE

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                  • Jazzrook
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                    • Mar 2011
                    • 3108

                    Originally posted by Ian Thumwood View Post
                    The earliest Ayler tracks sound like a less aasured Sonny Rollins.
                    Here’s Ayler’s stark live version of ‘Rollins’ Tune’(aka ‘No Moe’) recorded in Stockholm, 1962:

                    Provided to YouTube by UniverseRollins Tune - the Stopper · Albert Ayler · Sonny Rollins · Sonny RollinsAlbert Ayler: Something Different! (First Recordings ...


                    JR

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                    • Serial_Apologist
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 37812

                      Originally posted by Jazzrook View Post

                      Here’s Ayler’s stark live version of ‘Rollins’ Tune’(aka ‘No Moe’) recorded in Stockholm, 1962:

                      Provided to YouTube by UniverseRollins Tune - the Stopper · Albert Ayler · Sonny Rollins · Sonny RollinsAlbert Ayler: Something Different! (First Recordings ...


                      JR
                      I managed to find the LP from which that track is taken going at a ridiculously low price second hand. It is a terrifying album - so much pain there.

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                      • Tenor Freak
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                        • Dec 2010
                        • 1061

                        One for Bluesnik...



                        ...actually he does a nice job on that.
                        all words are trains for moving past what really has no name

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                        • elmo
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 546

                          Sonny Rollins with NHOP and Alan Dawson playing "Oleo" - Sonny at the peak of his powers. Wish I had seen him in the 60's



                          elmo

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                          • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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                            • Dec 2010
                            • 4313

                            Originally posted by Tenor Freak View Post
                            One for Bluesnik...



                            ...actually he does a nice job on that.

                            By any means necessary...

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                            • Jazzrook
                              Full Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 3108

                              Originally posted by BLUESNIK'S REVOX View Post
                              Inspired by the timing of your exploding banjo post here’s B.B. King & ‘Three O’clock Blues’:

                              B.B. King, King Of The Blues, Ain't Nothin' More To Say!!!


                              JR

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                              • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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                                • Dec 2010
                                • 4313

                                "Located in Birmingham, Warwickshire, England, the Windsor banjo factory manufactured thousands of banjos over its lifetime until it was destroyed during World War II by an air raid in 1940"

                                They were aiming for George Formby. Still, it's an ill wind.

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