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  • Flay
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    • Mar 2007
    • 5795

    #16
    slower and in a lower key....

    Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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    • eighthobstruction
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      • Nov 2010
      • 6527

      #17
      ....prime British chops....
      bong ching

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      • Serial_Apologist
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        • Dec 2010
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        #18
        Originally posted by kindofblue View Post
        This is great, thanks burning dog! Would never have recognised Kenny Wheeler. It starts off in 'Birth of the Cool' territory, and then starts to swing. Fascinating.
        More 'Kind of Blue', ironically, I'd say! I think I would have recognised Kenny as the soloist, if only by the fractionally off-the-beat manner of his phrasing - something he would go on to make innovative and influential use of, later on.

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        • Flay
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          • Mar 2007
          • 5795

          #19
          In case this was missed: the music in Calib's question is Johnny Richards & his Orchestra as I have quoted above
          Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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          • Serial_Apologist
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            • Dec 2010
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            #20
            Originally posted by Flay View Post
            In case this was missed: the music in Calib's question is Johnny Richards & his Orchestra as I have quoted above
            Thanks Flay.

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            • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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              • Dec 2010
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              #21
              Originally posted by Flay View Post
              In case this was missed: the music in Calib's question is Johnny Richards & his Orchestra as I have quoted above
              Excellent! The tenor sax (because I was curious listening to your link) was probably Frank Socolow, a new York "journeyman"
              player according to Fresh Sounds. Although he did record with Bud Powell etc.

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              • Ian Thumwood
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                • Dec 2010
                • 4361

                #22
                Johnny Richards used to be featured quite regularly when I used to listen to Alan Dell's programme on Radio 2 in the 1980s. He was principally an arranger for Stan Kenton.

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                • Nick Armstrong
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26628

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Flay View Post
                  slower and in a lower key....

                  Flay you beauty

                  How did you get that? A piece you knew......?


                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • Flay
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                    • Mar 2007
                    • 5795

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                    Flay you beauty

                    How did you get that? A piece you knew......?


                    Sadly not... I used Shazam which guided me, then I sleuthed
                    Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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                    • Nick Armstrong
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26628

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Flay View Post
                      Sadly not... I used Shazam which guided me, then I sleuthed

                      Remarkable, Holmes; I must seek initiation to the Shazam devilry...

                      And the album is on Qobuz too




                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • kindofblue
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                        • Nov 2015
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                        More 'Kind of Blue', ironically, I'd say! I think I would have recognised Kenny as the soloist, if only by the fractionally off-the-beat manner of his phrasing - something he would go on to make innovative and influential use of, later on.
                        I agree about Kenny Wheeler's solo, his phrasing is definitely looking forward. Do you know when he started to prefer the flugelhorn?

                        I think the tuba player is likely to remain a mystery for some time...

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                        • Serial_Apologist
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 38184

                          #27
                          Originally posted by kindofblue View Post
                          I agree about Kenny Wheeler's solo, his phrasing is definitely looking forward. Do you know when he started to prefer the flugelhorn?
                          Not sure he ever did - unless you know something different. What is quite interesting is that in a few of his later recordings Kenny performed on a cornet given to him at the age of 12 by his father.

                          I think the tuba player is likely to remain a mystery for some time...
                          Particularly since his head appears to have been replaced by the bell of the horn from that angle!!!

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                          • kindofblue
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                            • Nov 2015
                            • 145

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                            Not sure he ever did - unless you know something different. What is quite interesting is that in a few of his later recordings Kenny performed on a cornet given to him at the age of 12 by his father.



                            Particularly since his head appears to have been replaced by the bell of the horn from that angle!!!
                            I'm pretty sure this is a flugelhorn. Whatever, it's an extremely poignant piece of film -

                            In memory of Kenny Wheeler (14 January 1930 – 18 September 2014)‘A scene with Kenny Wheeler’ was filmed in Copenhagen at STC Studios in August 2011 during th...

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                            • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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                              • Dec 2010
                              • 4353

                              #29
                              The tuba player was probably Ron Snyder, "a mediocre player" according to the write ups. When Zoot Sims sat in and asked the JD band to play something a semitone up, Ron carried on in his original key as the horn section collapsed. Not a happy Zoot.

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                              • Flay
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                                • Mar 2007
                                • 5795

                                #30
                                Thanks for the thumbs-up about this series, Caliban. I'm enjoying it.
                                As well as the cool music (including Shostakovich), there are some decent descriptive turns of phrase.
                                Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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