Bill Evans

[Joseph K]

I haven't yet watched this documentary, but it was praised by Martin Taylor on facebook, so I've decided to share it here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwXAqIaUahI

[Serial_Apologist]

Ah - that Bill Evans!

[Joseph K]

Ah - that Bill Evans!

Yes - not the saxophonist!

[burning dog]

Or the saxophonist/flautist
(though he was only called Bill Evans between two other names)

[Rcartes]

Or the saxophonist/flautist
(though he was only called Bill Evans between two other names)

Are you sure? According to Wikipedia (not, I admit, an unchallengeable source), his birth name was William Emanuel Huddleston - although his father changed the family name to Evans after they moved to Detroit in 1925.

Incidentally, I once interviewed Lateef and, early on in the interview, made what turned out to be the serious mistake of referring to "jazz." This set him off on an extended rant because he argued that the term was a synonym for everything that was vile. So the interview was not a success...

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

Are you sure? According to Wikipedia (not, I admit, an unchallengeable source), his birth name was William Emanuel Huddleston - although his father changed the family name to Evans after they moved to Detroit in 1925.

Incidentally, I once interviewed Lateef and, early on in the interview, made what turned out to be the serious mistake of referring to "jazz." This set him off on an extended rant because he argued that the term was a synonym for everything that was vile. So the interview was not a success...

New York Times feature, 1977...
"The term jazz is highly ambiguous.” Mr. Lateef insisted during an interview. One dictionary, he explained, said in its first entry that jazz meant “to have sexual intercourse, and that has nothing to do with music.”

Another dictionary, he said, defined jazz as that which is “discordant and noisy,” and that “of course has nothing to do with the art of improvisation or music.” Another defined it as music that is rhythmical. “If that holds true,” he continued, “so would Prokofiev's and Mozart's and Beethoven's music be called jazz. But it isn't.”

He did call his music "Autophysiopsychic music", which was his right, although a bit of mouthful. A very fine player etc nonetheless.

BN.

[Rcartes]

New York Times feature, 1977...
"The term jazz is highly ambiguous.” Mr. Lateef insisted during an interview. One dictionary, he explained, said in its first entry that jazz meant “to have sexual intercourse, and that has nothing to do with music.”

Another dictionary, he said, defined jazz as that which is “discordant and noisy,” and that “of course has nothing to do with the art of improvisation or music.” Another defined it as music that is rhythmical. “If that holds true,” he continued, “so would Prokofiev's and Mozart's and Beethoven's music be called jazz. But it isn't.”

He did call his music "Autophysiopsychic music", which was his right, although a bit of mouthful. A very fine player etc nonetheless.

BN.

Thanks for that, Bluesnik!

[burning dog]

Are you sure? According to Wikipedia (not, I admit, an unchallengeable source), his birth name was William Emanuel Huddleston - although his father changed the family name to Evans after they moved to Detroit in 1925.

Huddleston
, Evans, Lateef. If he used his new family name for a while it was between 2 other names. He may not ever have called himself Evans though

[burning dog]

.
“to have sexual intercourse.”
“discordant and noisy,”
"music that is rhythmical."


BN.

sounds like dodgy ( reflecting the predjudice of the time?) dictionaries rather than anything else

Wiki says "Jazz is a music genre that originated in the African-American communities of New Orleans, United States." contentious but a bit better.

https://www.wbgo.org/post/where-did-jazz-word-come-follow-trail-clues-deep-dive-lewis-porter#stream/0

[Serial_Apologist]

sounds like dodgy ( reflecting the predjudice of the time?) dictionaries rather than anything else

Wiki says "Jazz is a music genre that originated in the African-American communities of New Orleans, United States." contentious but a bit better.

https://www.wbgo.org/post/where-did-...orter#stream/0

The definition given in my Concise Oxford Dictionary of Music, given to me as a school prize in 1960 when I was 13, is too long to reproduce here, but it's not bad in very general terms; it ends as follows, "Sometimes the performers burst into vocal utterance".

[Quarky]

The definition given in my Concise Oxford Dictionary of Music, given to me as a school prize in 1960 when I was 13, is too long to reproduce here, but it's not bad in very general terms; it ends as follows, "Sometimes the performers burst into vocal utterance".

A Shout, may be.

Well, please be informed there is no adequate short form, or even long form definition for an art which has an an aspect of amoeba-like formlessness.

However searching for a definition, I came across an article in Encyclopaedia Britannica, written by one Gunther Schuller: https://www.britannica.com/art/jazz

Wouldn't dare to say anything more!

[Joseph K]

"Sometimes the performers burst into vocal utterance".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRfNuKf0pPU