Jo Jones JL 16.vii.11

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

.. a toe tapping treat this afternoon

[Quarky]

A brilliant programme. Not only for the analysis of Jo Jones, but forthe early Basie and Lester Young tracks.

Reaffirms my faith in human nature!

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

yep hit that spot with me as well oddball ...

juts listened for the second time and feel that this was a highly superior presentation, in particular the exposition of technique and knowledge of Jo Jones was excellent and sympathetic ... and the music was just olympian

[handsomefortune]

agreed, what a unique programme 'jazz library' was this week.

i thought the 'jl' percussionist guest, richard pyte, did a particularly deft job, in demonstrating the 'compartmentalisation' of the drum kit, in the 30s, as a part of describing joe jones's enigmatic style, and personal history.

it was great to hear of 'press rolls, choke cymbals, rim shots and high hats' and who played what, over them. useful too as it saved acres of verbal explanation, minus practicle example.

i've been looking forward to posting this link (below), now's perfect! the whole series is a forgotten treasure imo. all humph's episodes of 'born to swing' are available on utube, if you look.

here, joe jones shows what he did for a living, after his departure from the top, in setting up a drum workshop, and teaching the next gens drums. 'jl' excerpt suggested jones's voice is odd 'because he's squiffy' ... but it's just his voice i reckon. jones's point that 'there's nothing new under the sun' is so true, and the way he ushers in solo accompaniments is just so unlike how drummers behave today. although it's arguably exagerated, mannered, showy, it's also deeply sociable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDtlktFiTjM&NR=1

of late, i've appreciated the recent drum analysis on 'jl' progs in general. in particular, drummer john hiseman made some good points, although they got a bit lost amongst the discussion, on here, about (awful) taste in a 60s white blues artist, iirc.

both hiseman and guest percussionist on 'jl', richard pyte, make a similar point, about the 'non progress' of drums, due to the direction of rock/pop. contemporary drum styles being compared with a keep fit fanatic 'working out on a gym exercise machine'. imo this applies to rock especially.

'joe jones's sextet' track, called 'caravan', (featuring eastern sounding clarinet), reminded me of jez's interview with shebaka hutchins, and his recent musical direction.. within the 'sons of kemet' set, seb rochford (plus another drummer) also continued 'a conversation about drums', of sorts. though imo about digital drums' influence on their playing, as well as 'the sons' having a stab at the very antithesis, the uber earthy 'rasta man chant'.

i missed the 'jl' mentioned, apparently on max roach .... and can't find it in the recent archive at least ...i wonder, did anyone else hear it?

[handsomefortune]

'joe jones's sextet' track, called 'caravan',

sorry, jones's 'septet'.

[burning dog]

The programme was great as is handsomefortune's link ...Thanks

[Quarky]

i missed the 'jl' mentioned, apparently on max roach .... and can't find it in the recent archive at least ...i wonder, did anyone else hear it?

Availability:
Sorry, this programme is not available to listen again but we do have this Clip.

Last broadcast on Sat, 21 Aug 2010, 16:45 on BBC Radio 3.
SynopsisRichard Pite joins Alyn Shipton to pick the best discs by the founder of modern jazz drumming, Max Roach. They include pieces by many of Roach's own groups.

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Jazz Library - Max Roach (38.36) Music played
Timings are shown from the start of the programme in hours and minutes.

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Charlie Parker — Koko
Composer: Parker Performers: Dizzy Gillespie, tp; Charlie Parker, as; Curley Russell, b; Max Roach d. WOR Studios, New York, 26 Nov 1945.

The Genius of Charlie Parker, Savoy, SV 0104, Tr 8 --:--
The Miles Davis Nonet — Move
Composer: Best Performers: Miles Davis, tp; Kai Winding, tb; Junior Collins, frh; Bill Barber, tu; Lee Konitz, as; Gerry Mulligan, bar; Al Haig, p; Joe Schulman, b; Max Roach, d. New York, 21 Jan 1949.

Birth of the Cool, Capitol, 7243 5 30117 2 7, Tr 1 --:--
Bud Powell — Un Poco Loco
Composer: Powell Performers: Bud Powell, p; Curley Russell, b; Max Roach, d. WOR Studios, New York, 1 May 1951.

Amazing Bud Powell, Blue Note, 7423 32136-2, Tr 7 --:--
Clifford Brown & Max Roach — Daahoud
Composer: Brown Performers: Clifford Brown, t; Harold Land, ts; Richie Powell, p; George Morrow, b; Max Roach d. Capitol Studios, Los Angeles, 6 Aug 1954.

Joy Spring, Proper, Properbox 86 CD 4, Tr 6 --:--
Sonny Rollins — St Thomas
Composer: Rollins Performers: Sonny Rollins, ts; Tommy Flanagan, p; Doug Watkins, b; Max Roach, d. Rudy Van Gelder Studio, New Jersey, 22 June 1956.

Saxophone Colossus, Prestige, OJCCD 291-2, Tr 1 --:--
Max Roach — Old Folks
Composer: Roach / Hill / Lee Performers: Booker Little, tp; Ray Draper, tu; George Coleman, ts; Art Davis, b; Max Roach, d. New York City, 4 Nov 1958.

Award Winning Drummer, Stereo Time, ST 70003, Tr 5 --:--
Max Roach — Driva Man
Composer: Roach / Brown Performers: Abbey Lincoln, v; Booker Little, tp; Julian Priester, tb; Coleman Hawkins, ts; James Schenck, b; Max Roach, d. Nola's Penthouse Sound Studios, New York, 31 Aug 1960.

We Insist! Freedom Now Suite, Candid, CD 9002, Tr 1 --:--
Max Roach — The Drum also Waltzes
Composer: Roach Performers: Max Roach d. New York, 19 – 21 Oct 1966.

Drums Unlimited, Atlantic, 7567813612, Tr 1 --:--
Max Roach — January V
Composer: Roach Performers: Roy Brooks, Joe Chambers, Omar Clay, Fred King, Max Roach, Warren Smith, Freddie Waits, d, perc, vib, mar, xyl, timp; Ray Mantilla, cga, bgo, tim; Kenyatte Abdur-Rahman, perc, bells. New York, 25 – 27 July 1979.

M’Boom, Columbia, IC 36247, Tr 4 --:--
Max Roach Double Quartet — Double Delight
Composer: Roach / Turre Performers: Cecil Bridgewater, tp; Odean Pope, ts; Tyrone Brown, eb; Max Roach, d; Diane Monroe, Lesa Terry, vln; Maxine Roach, vla; Zela Terry, cel. New York, 1 & 2 Oct 1986.

Bright Moments, Soul Note, 121159, Tr 5 --:--
Dizzy Gillespie and Max Roach — Oo Pa Pa Da
Composer: Gillespie Performers: Dizzy Gillespie, v; Max Roach, d. Maison De La Culture De La Seine-Saint-Denis, Paris, 23 Mar 1989.

Max and Dizzy: Paris 1989, A&M, 6404 CD 2, Tr 6

[handsomefortune]

thanks for that oddball!

i remember the 'jl' episode now, (along with links to abbey lincoln obituaries). perhaps a max roach repeat is in order on this occasion, as a part of the 'jl drumfest'?

[Quarky]

I can see I may have to revise my ideas about the development of Jazz in the 60's and 70's - the hiatus or "bifurcation" of Free Jazz in one route and Jazz funk/rock in the other route.

That is Trane and the free jazzers were right, and Miles with his commercial stuff did Jazz a disservice.