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  • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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    • Dec 2010
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    Sonny's "Freedom Suite", Sonny speaks ...

    Sonny rightfully demands his place...worth reading in full for the background:


    JAZZ TIMES....

    In late October, we received a friendly but troubled call from one of our longtime subscribers, Sonny Rollins. He was concerned about the absence of his 1958 LP Freedom Suite from Michael J. West’s “Protest Jazz” sidebar, a supplement to the cover story featuring Kamasi Washington, Christian Scott aTunde Adjuah and writer Ashley Kahn. Our response to Rollins was apologetic, of course, and we were quick to explain that despite its “JT Essentials” header, the sidebar was simply a roundup of entry points into the rich legacy of jazz as social protest; we couldn’t possibly hit all of the “essentials” in a brief article of a few hundred words. Still, Rollins’ arguments were mighty, and we wanted to give him an opportunity to plead his case here—as if his music hadn’t already.
    Evan Haga, Editor

    "It was quite distressing to see that the JazzTimes article on protest music in jazz jumped from Louis Armstrong’s “(What Did I Do to Be So) Black and Blue” and Billie Holiday’s “Strange Fruit” right to 1960 and Max Roach’s We Insist! The Freedom Now Suite. Well, before that was Freedom Suite.

    I had an activist grandmother, and when I was a little boy, 3, 4, 5 years old, she used to take me on marches up and down Harlem for people like Paul Robeson and segregation cases on 125th Street. That was just a part of my upbringing. Later, when I was playing music and making a little name for myself, I was able to record “The House I Live In,” which was very much a civil-rights anthem at the time. And I made an early record with Miles Davis, “Airegin,” which was Nigeria spelled backwards. It was an attempt to introduce some kind of black pride into the conversation of the time. That was my history.

    The record Freedom Suite was made in the beginning of 1958. It was a trio recording with Max Roach and Oscar Pettiford, and it was an important album. The producer, Orrin Keepnews, took a lot of heat for that record. I made a statement [about civil rights on the back cover of] that record, and he even had to say at one time that he wrote the statement, which is ridiculous. But he wanted to record me on his Riverside label, and that was the piece that he had, and he accepted it.

    I took some heat for it as well. I was playing a concert in Virginia, something at a school down there, and I remember being confronted—not in a hostile or violent way, just verbally—about why I made this record, and so on and so forth. There were a lot of those [incidences]. It wasn’t a big deal for me, because as I said, it was quite normal. I was born into a family that was always very cognizant of those things. I do remember that the controversy was slightly scary—but not too much, because I was a big, strong guy, and when you’re young you think you’re indestructible. But in retrospect it was a little scary, yes. And it was also one of these situations where some people talked with me about it and some people didn’t, but it was always there, hanging over everything. Especially at that time; 1958 was pretty early on in the consciousness of the civil-rights movement.

    So it wasn’t like something that nobody knew about; it was a controversial record. They actually changed the title to Shadow Waltz [when the album was reissued by the Jazzland label in the early 1960s]. “The Freedom Suite” took up one half of the album, and the other half was standard compositions. So they took a name from the other half of the record.

    Anyway, it’s history—but it is history. And that’s why I was distressed to see it omitted from the list. In the modern jazz era, that was the first record that reflected the civil-rights period. That was the first that I know of. It was an important thing, a groundbreaking record. I just don’t want to be written out of history."

    Good for Newk.
  • Serial_Apologist
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    #2
    Thanks for reproducing this, Bluesie. Well worth reading, and fascinating.

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    • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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      #3
      As a partial aside from this, there's c. five hours of recorded interview with Wilbur Ware on You tube, carried out (I think) by his wife Glenda in the 1970s for the Wilbur Ware Institute in Chicago. He's very open and it's fascinating about his life, how it played out, ups and downs, and the jazz life and jazz business. Anyway, he talks about the famed "Night at the Village Vanguard" trio date with Sonny Rollins and Elvin. He seems quite bemused at the attention it later received because of the haphazard way it happened. He says in fact his best playing at that time was on Clifford Jordan's "Starting Point", which indeed very fine with Cedar Walton and Kenny Dorham..."the one I'm most proud of".

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      • Alyn_Shipton
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        • Nov 2010
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        #4
        If I remember rightly (and it was 10 years ago) it was in this programme that he talked about the Freedom Suite https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b008g6wj

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        • Ian Thumwood
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          • Dec 2010
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          #5
          I sometimes look at the jazz times website which, on the whole, is pretty consistent. It tends to be a bit conservative insofar that the music covered is typically within the mainstream and is not too fussed by either European jazz nor fringe stuff. It does cover the avant garde too but the underlying consensus is solidly jazz.


          Oddly, the article that interested me last week was a review of the album by drummer Jeff Ballard. The All About Jazz review was fulsome in it's praise whereas Jazz Times absolutely slaughtered if. It was extremely negative to the point of probably putting a lot of people of a record it felt that featured "generic, trivial pop-jazz ditties." It is interesting to come across such a negative album review these days as a lot of discs rarely get this kind of treatment even if it is due. As someone who consumes a lot of jazz records, I appreciate these more honest reviews. I have become sceptical of a site like All about Jazz which is great for giving you a broader view of a world of jazz where most of the artists are unfamiliar yet where everything seems to get 4-5 stars. A poor record usually gets 3/5. I think the only negative review I have red on that site was Laura Jurd's last disc which surprised me because this site is usually generous to the British Jazz scene and generally in admiration. I would appreciate more honest reviews on line and therefore was quite pleased to see Jazz Times put the boot in to something that looked like it was deserved.


          It sometimes does make me wonder that it these days of technical progress in playing and better production values whether jazz records are getting better as a whole. Are there genuinely less "turkeys" out there . I used to like the reviews in "Jazz Journal" when I used to buy the magazine because you understood the tastes of the reviewers and could therefore get a grasp of any bias.

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          • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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            #6
            Kenny Dorham had a stint reviewing jazz records for Downbeat in the sixties. He was no pushover, informed & critical and made few friends among his fellows. Ted Curzon raced up to him in the street after he had given a Curzon album three stars. "Why you only give my record three when you mostly said good things about it?" Kenny, "Because Downbeat only gave mine (Trumpet Toccata) four stars and it's a hell of a lot better than yours!

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            • Serial_Apologist
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              Originally posted by BLUESNIK'S REVOX View Post
              Kenny Dorham had a stint reviewing jazz records for Downbeat in the sixties. He was no pushover, informed & critical and made few friends among his fellows. Ted Curzon raced up to him in the street after he had given a Curzon album three stars. "Why you only give my record three when you mostly said good things about it?" Kenny, "Because Downbeat only gave mine (Trumpet Toccata) four stars and it's a hell of a lot better than yours!

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              • Jazzrook
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                • Mar 2011
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                #8
                Originally posted by BLUESNIK'S REVOX View Post
                Kenny Dorham had a stint reviewing jazz records for Downbeat in the sixties. He was no pushover, informed & critical and made few friends among his fellows. Ted Curzon raced up to him in the street after he had given a Curzon album three stars. "Why you only give my record three when you mostly said good things about it?" Kenny, "Because Downbeat only gave mine (Trumpet Toccata) four stars and it's a hell of a lot better than yours!
                Brian Morton writes of an encounter with Ted Curson in Finland in the new online version of Jazz Journal:

                It’s me, speaking from another dimension . . . I was talking to a colleague a week or so back, about the great change that Jazz Journal has undergone and about the status of writing online. We had the usual slightly geeky exchange, the kind of thing that is only of interest to fellow-exponents, like […]


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                • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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                  Originally posted by Jazzrook View Post
                  Brian Morton writes of an encounter with Ted Curson in Finland in the new online version of Jazz Journal:

                  It’s me, speaking from another dimension . . . I was talking to a colleague a week or so back, about the great change that Jazz Journal has undergone and about the status of writing online. We had the usual slightly geeky exchange, the kind of thing that is only of interest to fellow-exponents, like […]


                  JR
                  That is a really nice piece and those are excellent records! The "senior moments" come to me too. I was listening to an Art Blakey track on French Radio a while back and thinking "that's great, who's playing drums?"

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                  • Jazzrook
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                    • Mar 2011
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                    #10
                    Tenorist David S. Ware recorded a fine version of Rollins' 'The Freedom Suite' in 2002 with Matthew Shipp(piano); William Parker(bass) & Guillermo E. Brown(drums).
                    Here's Part 1:

                    Composed by Sonny Rollins, arranged by David S. WareDavid S. Ware: tenor saxMatthew Shipp: pianoWilliam Parker: bassGuillermo E. Brown: drumsRecorded on July...


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