Pits and Beasties under the Moon in June

[Stunsworth]

Thanks Vespare - the visuals are fun; not sure if they add anything!

Qobuz have single and double ‘CD’ versions of this album. I’m not sure whether the double CD contains unrelated material. It goes on sale on the 29th of this month. I’ll be buying - probably the double.

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

I think the double contains the alternate takes, particularly of Impressions without piano. I'll buy the double too.

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

Per amazon:


Disc: 1
1. Untitled Original 11383 - Take 1
2. Nature Boy
3. Untitled Original 11386 - Take 1
4. Vilia - Take 3
5. Impressions - Take 3
6. Slow Blues
7. One Up, One Down - Take 1

Disc: 2
1. Vilia - Take 5
2. Impressions - Take 1
3. Impressions - Take 2
4. Impressions - Take 4
5. Untitled Original 11386 - Take 2
6. Untitled Original 11386 - Take 5
7. One Up, One Down - Take 6

[Ian Thumwood]

Shame there are so many takes of "Impressions" - probably the thinnest of all Coltrane's compositions and not a favourite.

Does anyone else have the double album "One up, one down" which came out about 10 years ago ? This live set represents for me the epitome of Coltrane's music and is better than anything I have heard him produce in the studio. The title track is stupendous.

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

Yep, that is an extraordinary record, at times it appears Coltrane is playing a duet or accompanying himself. The bottom of the horn lines intertwining /contrasting with his higher register. A dialogue.

The "Impressions" from the "new" disc apparently show Trane getting to grips with it in a studio at various speeds and one (excellent) take without piano. I've always liked Impressions so this won't put me off.

BN

[Ian Thumwood]

The album "impressions" is a hard disc to love. One of the few Coltrane records I really don't enjoy. I quite like "Plays" which never seems to get the plaudits it deserves whereas he never made a better studio album than "Crescent. " However "One up, one down" trumps the lot, in my opinion

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

"Plays" was one of (the late) Bob Berg's top five discs by anyone, ever. He raved about it, peak Coltrane, Brasilia. I'm good with it but I'd go for Transition as my pick. I'm also a big fan of Coltrane! for Out of this World and Soul Eyes, Elvin is totally wonderful on that first side also. I bought it when it came out and it's stuck with me since.

[Quarky]

Thanks Vespare - the visuals are fun; not sure if they add anything!

More to it than meets the eye, methinks . The images seem to be based on the the Coltrane Circle :

http://www.faena.com/aleph/articles/john-coltranes-drawing-of-the-mathematical-soul-of-music/

[Joseph K]

Shame there are so many takes of "Impressions" - probably the thinnest of all Coltrane's compositions and not a favourite.

Does anyone else have the double album "One up, one down" which came out about 10 years ago ? This live set represents for me the epitome of Coltrane's music and is better than anything I have heard him produce in the studio. The title track is stupendous.

I agree about 'One Up One Down' … it's amazing.

The thing I find tragic about that record is the way two tracks get cut off... it is seriously just awful because I get the impression of what we have of 'My Favorite Things' that it would have been the greatest version of that track, at least cut by the classic quartet.

'Impressions' is just 'So What', really. I like both tracks. I adore his version of 'Impressions' live at Newport 63 with Roy Haynes on drums - I also love the version of last time he recorded the tune, in Antibes 65 I think, sounding very mystical.

[Joseph K]

"Plays" was one of (the late) Bob Berg's top five discs by anyone, ever. He raved about it, peak Coltrane, Brasilia. I'm good with it but I'd go for Transition as my pick. I'm also a big fan of Coltrane! for Out of this World and Soul Eyes, Elvin is totally wonderful on that first side also. I bought it when it came out and it's stuck with me since.

My favourite Coltrane album live or in the studio would have to be Interstellar Space, but I agree Transition is great.

[Serial_Apologist]

S_A ~ Alyn's blog link for JRR should be: http://alynshipton.co.uk/blog

JR

Many thanks JR - with apologies to Alyn.

(Wwwhat wasn't I thinking of?)

[Serial_Apologist]

Yep, that is an extraordinary record, at times it appears Coltrane is playing a duet or accompanying himself. The bottom of the horn lines intertwining /contrasting with his higher register. A dialogue.

BN

Trane was preparing himself for supplying his own otherwise missing harmonic counterpoint on those duets on Interstellar Space with Rashied: you can hear him doing it on Mister PC alongside Dolphy on the Paris '61 I grandi di jazz bootleg. You'll hear Evan Parker do something similar in his own solo soprano outings: Evan calls it "pseudo counterpoint". I've also heard Paul Dunmall at it!

(BTW Paul was miffed that he never got the chance to work with Rashied when he was over in the States. I forget what the exact problem was.)

[Serial_Apologist]

Incidentally, re Alyn's mention just now of the Keith Tippett benefit, as far as I know the one taking place at The Vortex on Saturday 30th June is still on.

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

Another very good JRR from Cannonball start to Keith finish. That Michel Legrand "Demoiselles de Roquefort" theme has stuck in my mind ever since I first saw the film. Or maybe it was Catherine Deneuve and Françoise her sister dancing around the music room because the Circus is coming to town. And WHY not.

BN.

Roquefort had/has a rare Transporter bridge. In common with Newport S.Wales, where I first emerged. Not many people know theeeeese theeengs.

[antongould]

Incidentally, re Alyn's mention just now of the Keith Tippett benefit, as far as I know the one taking place at The Vortex on Saturday 30th June is still on.

Enjoyed the Keith Tippett track and wasn't aware of his health problems. Over forty years since I saw him ......