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  • Ian Thumwood
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    • Dec 2010
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    Bill Frisell & Thomas Morgan @ Turner Sims

    In these days of instant media attention, Bill Frisell remains one of the few genuine giants in jazz. I have always been a fan of his music but last night's duo with bassist Thomas Morgan was something of a revelation, the music firmly anchored within the jazz tradition yet demonstrating just how innovative it can be. The gig opened up with Monk's "Pannonica" and then progressed in to Strayhorn's "Lush life." There were a few originals thrown in but the set really put Frisell in to the mainstream zone with the first set concluding with "Subconsciously Lee", a contrafact on "What is this thing called love." For me, this demonstrated more than anything, the guitarist's mastery, the harmonic language of the standard shattered and buckled like an outside version of Jim Hall. The trademark use of pedals and loops underscored the music but was largely used sparingly and to great effect.

    The bassist Thomas Morgan was a new name to me. In the past, the role would have been taken by someone like Charlie Haden yet Morgan seemed a nimble and fleet-fingered soloist who was right up tight against Frisell's flights of fancy. After the closing first set, most people were staggered and the sold-out gig gave a large cheer of approval after the initial set. Frisell was clearly playing for a hugely partisan audience and I felt that the atmosphere really brought out some terrific playing from him. The faddish Downtown tendencies are long behind him and what last night witnessed was a stellar performance by one of the few remaining giants in the current scene. Frisell's ability to still surprise was no more in evidence than on "Epistrophy" where the music was at once invigorating and innovative in the way the Monk theme was pulled apart. There were moments when this music swung in it's truest sense with Thomas laying down the kind of walking bass lines that would have done Paul Chambers proud.

    Oddly, the most interesting interpretation of the evening after the Monk number was the theme from the James Bond film "Goldfinger." In the past this might have taken on an ironic interpretation but what was apparent last night was that the tune is sufficiently odd to begin with to make it a really compelling tune for jazz improvisation. It offered lots of harmonic potential which certainly surprised me and the guitarist's harmonic language seemed to thrive in this unlikely number. The use of loops only seemed to accentuate the effect and the variety of pedals gave the music added colour. "Goldfinger" was a Frisell masterpiece - akin to the use of unlikely material by the likes of Sonny Rollins.

    The gig concluded, the audience gave both musicians a rapturous reception and they were then brought back to do an encore where Frisell explained how his love of music stemmed from the "British Invasion" of the 1960's and that he felt compelled to pay hommage given that he was touring the UK. I expect most people were anticipating a Beatles number and everyone must have been shocked when he launched in to Petula Clark's "Down town." Again, this proved to work surprisingly well, if not as radical as the Bond theme, but clearly it offered the musicians a challenge in addition to feeding Bill Frisell's nostalgia.

    This was one of the best gigs I have seen in Southampton for years. Bill Frisell is a musician I have followed for over 30 years and I always felt that he had reached his creative peak in the early 1990s with a string of exceptional albums. Last night seemed to witness an increasing maturity and level of craftsmanship. He remains one of the key catalysts for widening the harmonic language in jazz over the last thirty years and whereas back in the 1980s we might have marvelled at his use of technology to broaden the palette of jazz, the duo with Morgan seemed to reaffirm him back within a more mainstream tradition but with the clout and gravitas that only comes from a career that stretches back about 35 years. To put things in context, Laura Jurd wasn't even born when Bill Frisell started to make a name for himself. It is a shame that musicians of this originally and calibre seem fewer and fewer on the ground these days and the advanced age of the audience as a whole was suggestive that the appeal of this kind of jazz is now broadly within a mainstream consensus - the one person on this board who would have loved this gig more than anyone else would have been Bluesnik.
  • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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    • Dec 2010
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    #2
    That's a wonderful review Ian. Exceptional, and like all such well written enthusiastic reviews, made me wish I'd been there. I've been a bit "sniffy" about Frisell in the past, partly as a wind up, and partly because he lingered in Americana areas that maybe were not for me. But, I really like the trio material, standards and other, with Lovano and Motian*, and this seems an extension of that. Thanks again.

    BN.


    Their live version of "Angel Eyes" from that long ago Barbican concert is a standout.

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    • Serial_Apologist
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      • Dec 2010
      • 37857

      #3
      Originally posted by Ian Thumwood View Post
      T

      Oddly, the most interesting interpretation of the evening after the Monk number was the theme from the James Bond film "Goldfinger." In the past this might have taken on an ironic interpretation but what was apparent last night was that the tune is sufficiently odd to begin with to make it a really compelling tune for jazz improvisation. It offered lots of harmonic potential which certainly surprised me and the guitarist's harmonic language seemed to thrive in this unlikely number.
      Ah, yet "another" instance of Britjazz influence on the American product...

      The gig concluded, the audience gave both musicians a rapturous reception and they were then brought back to do an encore where Frisell explained how his love of music stemmed from the "British Invasion" of the 1960's and that he felt compelled to pay hommage given that he was touring the UK. I expect most people were anticipating a Beatles number and everyone must have been shocked when he launched in to Petula Clark's "Down town."


      Thanks for this report, Ian. Sounds like I might at last have been won over for Mr Frisell, had I been there.

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      • Alyn_Shipton
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        • Nov 2010
        • 777

        #4
        You will be able to hear this duo in concert from Cheltenham on Jazz Now on 21 May. I was blown away by their playing, and I hope the Radio 3 audience will be too.

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        • Serial_Apologist
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          • Dec 2010
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          #5
          Originally posted by Alyn_Shipton View Post
          You will be able to hear this duo in concert from Cheltenham on Jazz Now on 21 May. I was blown away by their playing, and I hope the Radio 3 audience will be too.
          Thanks Alyn for the advance - Noted on calendar, along with "I must stay in"!

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          • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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            • Dec 2010
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            #6
            There's an intimate performance by Frisell and Morgan on YouTube. Playing some of Ian's numbers, Goldfinger, Epistrophy etc, in New York last August. I can't link to it from this Albanian iphone, but worth checking out.

            BN.

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            • Serial_Apologist
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              • Dec 2010
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              #7
              Originally posted by BLUESNIK'S REVOX View Post
              There's an intimate performance by Frisell and Morgan on YouTube. Playing some of Ian's numbers, Goldfinger, Epistrophy etc, in New York last August. I can't link to it from this Albanian iphone, but worth checking out.

              BN.
              Thanks Bluesie. Start from here - others follow on automatically on my nice computer:

              Bill Frisell & Thomas Morgan - EpistrophyRecorded Live: 8/16/2017 - Paste Studios - New York, NYMore Bill Frisell & Thomas Morgan in the Paste Cloud: http://...


              Funnily enough this is more or less at the point where Derek Bailey's trio Josef Holbrooke, with Gavin Bryars and Tony Oxley, started playing changes-based jazz then taking it much further out, working from an obscure Sheffield pub somewhere around 1964.

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              • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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                • Dec 2010
                • 4316

                #8
                SA, you've probably seen this? Recent interview with Dave Holland in "National Sawdust" (A blog)...


                (DH) "I've heard that spoken about by some musicians. But on the other hand, they also spoke about the inspiration that initiated their interest in improvisation – that they got the inspiration from African American music, and how important that was to them. I think they wanted to craft a language that was maybe not completely seeded in that tradition, but had the spirit of it, I would say, and also some connections to it. I mean, there’s times when I listen to Evan where I do hear his Coltrane influence coming through, even though it may not be as obvious as with some other players you might listen to, so that was a connection. I mean, when I first heard Derek Bailey I was 17; I was on tour with Johnny Ray, the singer, who was a crooner from America, and I was doing a tour with him in a big band. We stayed at a hotel in the north of England and in the lounge at the hotel – and I only found this out many years later, in talking to Derek – was Derek Bailey playing with Gavin Bryars on bass and Tony Oxley on drums. And they were playing Bill Evans compositions.

                Incredible. An early Joseph Holbrooke engagement!

                I hadn’t put it together, because I didn’t know Derek at that time. But I was talking to somebody, maybe Tony Oxley, and he said, “Oh yeah, you know, we used to play up in this thing.” And I said, damn, I remember being there!"

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                • Alyn_Shipton
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 777

                  #9
                  I once asked Derek why he'd moved further and further away from playing changes based jazz, and he said: "I couldn't stand playing 'Stella by f***ing Starlight' one more time..."

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                  • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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                    • Dec 2010
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                    #10
                    I was (very recently) very surprised and amused that Derek Bailey played in the "Opportunity Knocks" house band! He said the thing was fake and the clapometer was a joke. Hughie Green, not all he seemed? WHO would of thought.

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                    • Serial_Apologist
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                      • Dec 2010
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by BLUESNIK'S REVOX View Post
                      I was (very recently) very surprised and amused that Derek Bailey played in the "Opportunity Knocks" house band! He said the thing was fake and the clapometer was a joke. Hughie Green, not all he seemed? WHO would of thought.
                      Huey green - in a memorable bit of punning association in one of his stand-ups.

                      Here's the Josef Holbrooke track - iirc the only survivor from those early sessions. There's more in those 10 minutes... how I would have liked to have heard more, to get a more comprehensive idea of the working methodology they used to get from changes to non-changes, though the transitional stage as here indicated is fascinating.

                      DEREK BAILEY, TONY OXLEY, GAVIN BRYARSFeel free to check out my music...https://harshestrealm.bandcamp.com http://soundcloud.com/harshestrealm http://har...


                      Right at the end of his life, when Derek was suffering with carpal tunnel syndrome making playing painfuly difficult, he actually recorded a CD of standards. Maybe a b it like what he starts playing 5 minutes in on this:

                      Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


                      In the early 80s Derek did a broadcast on Charles Fox's programme - a solo thing titled "The Only Good Jazz Composer Is A Dead Jazz Composer" - which I wish I'd taped, because on it he did an amazing pastiche of Django Reinhardt - much the same as here: the straight strummed chords semi-hidden in forests of tone rows turning this way then that.

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                      • Frithling
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                        • May 2018
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Alyn_Shipton View Post
                        You will be able to hear this duo in concert from Cheltenham on Jazz Now on 21 May. I was blown away by their playing, and I hope the Radio 3 audience will be too.
                        Hi Alyn,
                        I do hope we will get the maximum broadcast time for this concert with minimum talk or official material - and a 'Missing Bits' program to give us the rest?

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                        • Ian Thumwood
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 4243

                          #13
                          The Bill Frisell set from Cheltenham was massively curtailed on "Jazz now" if it followed the same format in Southampton. Hopefully the rest of it will be broadcast later. I didn't think the radio broadcast quite matched the experience of the live gig at the Turner Sims but the guitarist did make a comment that he did not feel all the things they did at Cheltenham quite came off. There was certainly an impression that he was happier regarding the Southampton gig which I felt was pretty special.

                          Having said that, I have been playing the new solo album "Music is" this week and note that this board has been pretty silent regarding the release of this album. Without wishing to be too controversial in comparing this record with what is clearly an exceptional duo, but "Music is" is shockingly radical. I think it is simply one of the best albums he has out put under his own name and maybe the most experimental he has been on record. Some of the tracks seem to be totally improvised and there were odd moments which seemed to recall the abstract nature of Derek Bailey. It is a record which does demand a lot of attention and something sceptics like SA and Bluesnik might be interested in exploring. All the tunes are originals even though about 50% of the material has been recorded on other discs - including "Monica Jane" which first cropped up on Paul Bley's "Fragments. " However, there is an element on this record which seems to require familiarity with these tunes because the themes are often lost within the weave of the improvisation - a bit like some of those medieval history books you come across which expect the reader to have had some prior knowledge. I think "Music is" will put a lot of people off where they have previously enjoyed his more "populist" releases but this is a record which I think will get a lot of respect from listeners who appreciate something more challenging. I have been very impressed with the approach of players like Mary Halvorson who is seemingly taking the mantle as the most important guitarist of her generation but Frisell's solos album has appeared on the shelves, backed by the weight of considerable experience and can be seen as throwing down the gauntlet. I still think that Frisell's Lang / Venuti influenced band on "Quartet" remains my favourite record of his yet see "Music is" as a defining album. Anyone interested in harmony is going to have fun untangling the bi- tonalities on the disc!

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                          • Serial_Apologist
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                            • Dec 2010
                            • 37857

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Ian Thumwood View Post
                            The Bill Frisell set from Cheltenham was massively curtailed on "Jazz now" if it followed the same format in Southampton. Hopefully the rest of it will be broadcast later. I didn't think the radio broadcast quite matched the experience of the live gig at the Turner Sims but the guitarist did make a comment that he did not feel all the things they did at Cheltenham quite came off. There was certainly an impression that he was happier regarding the Southampton gig which I felt was pretty special.

                            Having said that, I have been playing the new solo album "Music is" this week and note that this board has been pretty silent regarding the release of this album. Without wishing to be too controversial in comparing this record with what is clearly an exceptional duo, but "Music is" is shockingly radical. I think it is simply one of the best albums he has out put under his own name and maybe the most experimental he has been on record. Some of the tracks seem to be totally improvised and there were odd moments which seemed to recall the abstract nature of Derek Bailey. It is a record which does demand a lot of attention and something sceptics like SA and Bluesnik might be interested in exploring. All the tunes are originals even though about 50% of the material has been recorded on other discs - including "Monica Jane" which first cropped up on Paul Bley's "Fragments. " However, there is an element on this record which seems to require familiarity with these tunes because the themes are often lost within the weave of the improvisation - a bit like some of those medieval history books you come across which expect the reader to have had some prior knowledge. I think "Music is" will put a lot of people off where they have previously enjoyed his more "populist" releases but this is a record which I think will get a lot of respect from listeners who appreciate something more challenging. I have been very impressed with the approach of players like Mary Halvorson who is seemingly taking the mantle as the most important guitarist of her generation but Frisell's solos album has appeared on the shelves, backed by the weight of considerable experience and can be seen as throwing down the gauntlet. I still think that Frisell's Lang / Venuti influenced band on "Quartet" remains my favourite record of his yet see "Music is" as a defining album. Anyone interested in harmony is going to have fun untangling the bi- tonalities on the disc!
                            Well thanks for the new Frisell plug, Ian. As you know I'm not a great fan, so I hope someone plays a track from "Music Is". That title is one of Mike Westbrook's, by the way, though I don't expect this to be the same number! Where are we on copyright when it comes to tune names?

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                            • Ian Thumwood
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                              • Dec 2010
                              • 4243

                              #15
                              S.A.

                              There is no track called "Music is" on this disc - it just refers to the album title and maybe something of a statement as to the intention of the record. I had his previous solo disc, "Ghost Town" as a birthday present many years ago and thought that that was a really strong album too. Interestingly, "Ghost Town" did have quite a bit of multi-tracking on it with one multi-layered theme coming from a soundtrack he had written for a film of Gary Larson's "Far Side." I have never seen this film but having been a fan of the original cartoons, it is something that I have always wanted to see.

                              "Music is" seems to be a less arranged type of session whereas you get the sense that "Ghost town" was more composed. I wold recommend both discs.

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