Jazz drummers, so who do you rate?

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  • Joseph K
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    • Oct 2017
    • 7765

    #46
    Keith Carlock is pretty damn sick, his work with Wayne Krantz especially...

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    • MrGongGong
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      • Nov 2010
      • 18357

      #47
      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
      Eddie Prevost.
      "Jazz" ?

      Don't let the goatee beards steal our music

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      • CGR
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        • Aug 2016
        • 370

        #48
        The quiet ones !!!

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        • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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          • Dec 2010
          • 4323

          #49
          Sandy Nelson...(eat your heart out Elvin)!

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          • Bryn
            Banned
            • Mar 2007
            • 24688

            #50
            Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
            "Jazz" ?

            Don't let the goatee beards steal our music
            Don't dis jazz within Eddie's hearing. He may have transcended its bounds with AMM but he remains a devotee and practitioner of jazz, too.

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            • MrGongGong
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              • Nov 2010
              • 18357

              #51
              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
              Don't dis jazz within Eddie's hearing. He may have transcended its bounds with AMM but he remains a devotee and practitioner of jazz, too.

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              • Lordgeous
                Full Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 837

                #52
                Originally posted by gradus View Post
                Kenny Clare
                Chris Karan
                I'd hoped someone would mention Chris Karan. I had the thrill of playing with him once, recording a small film score of mine.
                Can I add Paul Motian?

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                • Old Grumpy
                  Full Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 3666

                  #53
                  Asaf Sirkis - great drummer* - not so keen on his extended excursions into Konnakol though.

                  OG

                  * And a really nice guy too [not mutually exclusive, I hasten to add!]

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                  • Jazzrook
                    Full Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 3123

                    #54
                    Dennis Charles sensitive drumming on Cecil Taylor's 'African Violets' and what a great vibraphonist Earl Griffith was.
                    Did he make any other recordings?

                    Looking Ahead! (1959)Personnel:Cecil Taylor (Piano)Buell Neidlinger (Bass)Dennis Charles (Drums)Earl Griffith (Vibes)--Nat Hentoff (Producer)


                    JR

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                    • Ein Heldenleben
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                      • Apr 2014
                      • 6995

                      #55
                      No real faves but particularly admire the following

                      Gene Krupa (with the exception of Buddy Rich has any jazz drummer hit them harder?) Saw Buddy's big band at Ronnies once -with the exception of Machito the loudest gig I ever heard there ...
                      Sonny Payne - particularly on Sinatra at the Sands - a masterclass in big band drumming
                      Paul Motian - v sensitive
                      Max Roach - obviously
                      Philly J J - I think I saw him with Bill Evans at the Fairfield Hall once - v.good but he had to change to brushes 'cos he was drowning the great man out ...
                      Kenny Washington - saw him once at Ronnie's with Jack Parnell , who was no slouch , watching his every single move. He was blinding...
                      Phil Seaman - who played the demanding drum part in the pit at the West End run of West Side Story . When he inadvertantly hit the gong during the hugely moving balcony scene immediately shouted out 'Dinner is served" Apologies if the Ronnie anecdote is upthread but its a cracker ....

                      Just thought of an omission - Martin Drew - Saw him once at Pizza Express with Scott Hamilton - absolutely superb.
                      The drummer who currently plays in London with Scott is also a hugely sensitive musician - an absolute delight to listen to ....
                      Happy days - hopefully they'll be back soon...

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                      • ostuni
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 551

                        #56
                        Joey Baron. This solo is quite wonderful: https://youtu.be/gwIyJRPRFXU

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                        • MrGongGong
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 18357

                          #57
                          I miss John Stevens

                          A wonderful man and great inspiration

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                          • Ian Thumwood
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                            • Dec 2010
                            • 4261

                            #58
                            Jimmy Crawford - drummer with Jimmie Lunceford's band and Paul Motian's hero. Amazed that his name has not cropped up so far.

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                            • DracoM
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                              • Mar 2007
                              • 12995

                              #59
                              Serious Q: what makes a 'great drummer'?

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                              • Serial_Apologist
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                                • Dec 2010
                                • 37886

                                #60
                                Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                                Serious Q: what makes a 'great drummer'?
                                Well in the case of straight ahead jazz, an ability to maintain strict time without speeding up or slowing down unless required - as in some Mingus works - should go without saying. I can't remember which famous musician it was who claimed Tony Williams was often apt to speed up. But Tony Williams would go down for me as my favourite in his early Blue Notes, under his own name and with others, for the reason that he loved the sheer sound of brushes or sticks on surfaces. In handing that gift onto the likes of Tony Oxley I would have to say that Oxley can produce ravishing sounds from the kit, whether acoustic or some of his home-designed electronically modified kits from the 1970s. I once told Elton Dean that some of those electronically extended solos were wonderfully relaxing if played at low volume before bedtime, to which he replied, "I'm not so sure Tony would like to hear you say that!"

                                There is a great solo by Jack DeJohnette on Kenny Wheeler's celebrated "Gnu High", in which he plays only on the cymbals: it is a study in subtle timbral differences and blendings. The "obvious" favourites are the Americans everyone will refer to: many think to be American is a since qua non for adequacy as a jazz drummer, let alone greatness, but I would cite the Dutch drummer Han Bennink as exemplifying what non-Americans can be capable of giving the music - there is also Paul Lovens in Germany, associated with Globe Unity; and of the Britons my favourites besides Oxo are Tony Levin and Tony Marsh, both no longer with us and greatly missed. Both acquired greatness imv in the freer areas of the music, and have no equals today, even though Mark Sanders seems to be flavour of the era with such leading free players as Paul Dunmall and Evan Parker. Generally I go for uncluttered approaches with lots of space in them, rather than the all-over-the-kit approach developed by some Fusion drummers and those who have been influenced by them, such as Martin France.

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