Hail from Outer Space, plus everything new under the Sun (who?) Ra

[Quarky]

Waiting with interest to hear GS on Sun Ra... here's my two pennyworth: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00g3s68

Worth its weight in gold, Alyn.

Will be listening to that repeatedly. Beyond time and out in space - in the sense of not being tied to any particular Jazz period or style **. A lot to get hold of there.

But may be Sun Ra is/was where we are at now.

**Never understood why Artists attempt to incorporate the latest Astronomical theories/ relativistic concepts into their art, unless it's tongue in cheek/ by analogy. Otherwise best left to the scientists.

[Serial_Apologist]

Sounds more Pope-ish

Some people will choose no doubt to be **incensed** by that remark, in the current climate.

[Serial_Apologist]

Worth its weight in gold, Alyn.

Will be listening to that repeatedly. Beyond time and out in space - in the sense of not being tied to any particular Jazz period or style **. A lot to get hold of there.

But may be Sun Ra is/was where we are at now.

**Never understood why Artists attempt to incorporate the latest Astronomical theories/ relativistic concepts into their art, unless it's tongue in cheek/ by analogy. Otherwise best left to the scientists.

Because they all want to become 's.

(All right, all right, I'm going).

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

Because they all want to become 's.

(All right, all right, I'm going).

A friend of mine was playing with one of local Welsh groups in the year that the Sun Ra band played the Brecon Festival. Sun Ra et al were uncomfortably late with Jed Williams (Mr Brecon) pacing up and down. Williams, a good man but with a short fuse, met Sun Ra when they eventually arrived with a "where the fk have you all been'?". Sun Ra replied "Heavy traffic around Mars, the solar system is hell today". All the band nodded in agreement...

Turn left at Neptune then straight the bypass on to Cardiff...



BN.

[Ian Thumwood]

If you are going to go for "outside" music and eccentric costumes, this is THE band. There is a sense of drama in the music that this band produce that is worthy of Duke Ellington or Miles Davis

[Old Grumpy]

If you are going to go for "outside" music and eccentric costumes, this is THE band. There is a sense of drama in the music that this band produce that is worthy of Duke Ellington or Miles Davis

Haven't yet watched the clip...

... but I see the man in the white coat is already there!

OG

[Serial_Apologist]

Haven't yet watched the clip...

... but I see the man in the white coat is already there!

OG

Yes - the only known band the psychiatrist was detailed to section instead went native and joined them.

[Quarky]

Because they all want to become 's.

(All right, all right, I'm going).

A belated

Some nice music played by GS.

[Ian Thumwood]

I've been trying to catch up on the Listen again facility as I missed a number of the Jazz Now broadcasts. The one that did disappoint was the ICP gig which I wanted to listen to having been unable to attend that particular concert in Southampton. The Dutch improvisers were one of my ways in to avant garde jazz even though there has always been a light-hearted and sometimes almost slapstick element to the music. Listening to the broadcast I felt that the music really lacked a sparkle and no longer seemed quite so adventurous. Maybe everyone else has caught up with them or perhaps is doesn't seem quite so edgy these days. Friends of mine who did go commented that it seemed a bit jaded and the music felt of it's time. I suppose the over-riding impression was just how part of the establishment this music now seems. I still like it yet it no longer provokes or seems as acerbic as it did when I stumbled upon these musicians in the 1980's. The photos showed a lot of late-middle aged musicians and I would not mind betting that this was probably reflected in the audience too - many of whom would have considered these players quite rebellious in the 1980's. As much of the era was Wynton's New Neos, I think.

[Serial_Apologist]

I've been trying to catch up on the Listen again facility as I missed a number of the Jazz Now broadcasts. The one that did disappoint was the ICP gig which I wanted to listen to having been unable to attend that particular concert in Southampton. The Dutch improvisers were one of my ways in to avant garde jazz even though there has always been a light-hearted and sometimes almost slapstick element to the music. Listening to the broadcast I felt that the music really lacked a sparkle and no longer seemed quite so adventurous. Maybe everyone else has caught up with them or perhaps is doesn't seem quite so edgy these days. Friends of mine who did go commented that it seemed a bit jaded and the music felt of it's time. I suppose the over-riding impression was just how part of the establishment this music now seems. I still like it yet it no longer provokes or seems as acerbic as it did when I stumbled upon these musicians in the 1980's. The photos showed a lot of late-middle aged musicians and I would not mind betting that this was probably reflected in the audience too - many of whom would have considered these players quite rebellious in the 1980's. As much of the era was Wynton's New Neos, I think.

I'm looking forward to Black Top, on tonight's Jazz Now, knowing as I have Pat Thomas since he was the sartorially elegant one among the 80s Oxford T-shirted improv scene, though I'd have to admit to preferring it on radio than actually being there, assuming as I am that volume levels will be above the tolerable or organismically endurable.

[Alyn_Shipton]

Or yesterday's Jazz Now even...

[Serial_Apologist]

Or yesterday's Jazz Now even...

Now, what was i doing last night?

[Old Grumpy]

Or yesterday's Jazz Now even...

Must be a different space-time continuum, man!

OG