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I remember seeing Chuck Berry on his very first UK tour in 1964 in Bristol, a package tour including the Animals and Carl Perkins of "Blue Seude Shoes" fame, and hence a large contingent of front row aging Teds. Chuck, aware of changing times, rejigged the chorus of his "School Days" from "Hail Hail Rock and Roll" to "Hail Hail Rhythm and Blues". Very loud and visible protests from Les Teds at this traitorous affront.
People display musical allegiance as identity and to gain social capital. Read Pierre Bourdieu's "Distinction", a classic dissection of petite bourgeoisie aspirational role playing. And learn from Chuck's experience...
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Originally posted by french frank View PostThe thing is that when people are splitting hairs over genres like rock and rock&roll, or R&B and R'n'B, they'll happily stick the label of "classical music" on what they think is "classical music". So that's classical music dealt with (NB not talking about the highly informed forumistas here).
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Originally posted by cloughie View PostInteresting ff, that precisely because of the hair splitting and inconclusive genres I have only two classifications - Classical and Non-classical. Even then there crossover repertoire but so what?
GOOD...what I call good
EQUALLY GOOD...other people agreeing with me.
BAD....what people other than the above call good.
"Hell is other people's... purile musical tastes and their bloody awful record collections" - Jean-Paul Sartre. (Vinyl and Nothingness).
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Originally posted by BLUESNIK'S REVOX View PostI have only three absolute classifications...
GOOD...what I call good
EQUALLY GOOD...other people agreeing with me.
BAD....what people other than the above call good.
"Hell is other people's... purile musical tastes and their bloody awful record collections" - Jean-Paul Sartre. (Vinyl and Nothingness).
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Originally posted by cloughie View PostInteresting ff, that precisely because of the hair splitting and inconclusive genres I have only two classifications - Classical and Non-classical. Even then there crossover repertoire but so what?
Like you, I have classical (of widely/wildly varying kinds), crossover and non classical.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by MrGongGong View PostMapping the territories of music is a widely practised activity
http://www.stampthewax.com/2016/03/2...ise-genre-map/
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Originally posted by BLUESNIK'S REVOX View Post"We are a long way from Kansas, Toto!"
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Prog Rock ?
bit AOR?
Toto ?
soft rock?
pop rock?
also a bit AOR?
Could the general populace simplify that Map to ROCK ( +folk)?
Like with "urban" music it seems every almost ensemble invents themselves a micro genre.
I remember when a certain type of Rock fan split the Popular music world into Rock - the good stuff and Pop - the rest. That seemed to ease during the punk era and beyondLast edited by burning dog; 26-01-18, 15:10.
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