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  • Ian Thumwood
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    • Dec 2010
    • 4361

    #16
    Got to say that the radio documentary was a bit of a mess. I particularly disliked the way the narration went in to vocalese at one point. It is interesting to hear how Annie Ross started and got her break but it was unhelpful insofar that it failed to explain who her aunt was. Looking at Wicki, it appears Ella Logan largely worked on Broadway and appeared in Holywood films as well as recording for Columbia. There seemed to be an interesting story there that was overlooked and replaced with an incident when a lesser known singer replaced the sick Billie Holiday at the Apollo. I am sure that there must have been plenty of singers who probably had a similar story.

    The weirdest thing was that the selection of tracks was suspect. Ross stated that the first record she was given was when she was 4 and it was a Chick Webb / Ella disc which was recorded in 1938 which would have made her 8 at least. The chronology of the records seemed out of keeping with the accounts given. I just got the impression that Ross was a bit unreliable as a witness.

    The other interesting fact that was glossed over was the casual relationship of various musicians. Duke and Billie would have seemed odd but they did one record together in around about 1935 that is little known. I wish that there was more information but the programme seemed to have been produced with people with little knowledge of jazz in mind. I didn't think that Annie Ross was THAT obscure!


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    • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
      Full Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 4353

      #17
      Originally posted by Ian Thumwood View Post
      Got to say that the radio documentary was a bit of a mess. I particularly disliked the way the narration went in to vocalese at one point. It is interesting to hear how Annie Ross started and got her break but it was unhelpful insofar that it failed to explain who her aunt was. Looking at Wicki, it appears Ella Logan largely worked on Broadway and appeared in Holywood films as well as recording for Columbia. There seemed to be an interesting story there that was overlooked and replaced with an incident when a lesser known singer replaced the sick Billie Holiday at the Apollo. I am sure that there must have been plenty of singers who probably had a similar story.

      The weirdest thing was that the selection of tracks was suspect. Ross stated that the first record she was given was when she was 4 and it was a Chick Webb / Ella disc which was recorded in 1938 which would have made her 8 at least. The chronology of the records seemed out of keeping with the accounts given. I just got the impression that Ross was a bit unreliable as a witness.

      The other interesting fact that was glossed over was the casual relationship of various musicians. Duke and Billie would have seemed odd but they did one record together in around about 1935 that is little known. I wish that there was more information but the programme seemed to have been produced with people with little knowledge of jazz in mind. I didn't think that Annie Ross was THAT obscure!


      Her brother was Jimmy Logan, a name to cause many of "my generation" to flinch like shellshock, remembering Bleak pre teen years stuck in front of the box on New Years Eve...with "Jimmy". I like the Scots a lot, my ex wife is from Fife and she's very hip, but Jimmy, kilt, accordion and pipes should be "posthumously"? on trial at the Hague. And then the ground salted.

      BN.

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      • Quarky
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 2684

        #18
        This must have been the radio programme in question:

        Andrew McGibbon talks to Annie Ross, who was Billie Holiday's stand in at Harlem's Apollo.


        She also did a Desert Island Discs, which is still available.

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        • Alyn_Shipton
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 778

          #19
          Annie was a great interviewee back in the 90s and we had a good chat for Radio 3 about her career for this programme: http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/9309976c9...f073447bebc12e

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          • Tenor Freak
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            • Dec 2010
            • 1075

            #20
            She was interviewed as part of Gregory Porter's BBC FOUR series Popular Voices, in the episode about crooners (ep.2). Link here but only if you have paid your licence fee:

            all words are trains for moving past what really has no name

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