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  • Serial_Apologist
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 37595

    Drum 'n' Fife

    Sat June 25
    4.00 Jazz Record Requests

    Alyn Shipton introduces listeners' requests, including an example of Missouri-born stride specialist Ralph Sutton's (1922-2001) most dazzling playing.



    5.00 Jazz Line-Up
    Claire Martin looks back at the career of Scottish-born New York-based saxophonist Joe Temperley, who died in May, aged 86, including tributes from trumpeter Wynton Marsalis, saxophonist Tommy Smith and jazz educator Richard Michael, who worked closely with Temperley when he was a guest mentor with the Fife Youth Jazz Orchestra

    Which is the first I've heard of them.

    A special edition looking back at the career of the great saxophonist Joe Temperley.


    12.00 Geoffrey Smith's Jazz
    The renowned Miles Davis Quintet and Sextet with John Coltrane produced a string of classic recordings in the 1950s. Geoffrey Smith selects some of his favourite tracks. Repeat

    This was a good 'un.

    Geoffrey Smith presents music from the Miles Davis Quintet and Sextet with John Coltrane.


    Mon 27 June
    11.00 Jazz Now

    Soweto Kinch presents a concert given by Swedish pianist Bobo Stenson and British saxophonist Martin Speake, recorded at Milton Court in the City of London. Stenson and Speake talk to Al Ryan about improvising and the art of playing as a duo. Emma Smith meets guitarist Femi Temowo, to hear about his work with the award-winning Engines Orchestra, and talks to Tori Freestone about her new album El Barranco.

    Compulsory listening for Tori's interview; and it's been long time since we've heard from ex-Jazz Warrior Femi.



    Ronnie used to say he was discussing forming a band of musicians with debts, and calling themselves The Jazz Worriers
  • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 4274

    #2
    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
    Sat June 25
    4.00 Jazz Record Requests

    Alyn Shipton introduces listeners' requests, including an example of Missouri-born stride specialist Ralph Sutton's (1922-2001) most dazzling playing.



    5.00 Jazz Line-Up
    Claire Martin looks back at the career of Scottish-born New York-based saxophonist Joe Temperley, who died in May, aged 86, including tributes from trumpeter Wynton Marsalis, saxophonist Tommy Smith and jazz educator Richard Michael, who worked closely with Temperley when he was a guest mentor with the Fife Youth Jazz Orchestra

    Which is the first I've heard of them.

    A special edition looking back at the career of the great saxophonist Joe Temperley.


    12.00 Geoffrey Smith's Jazz
    The renowned Miles Davis Quintet and Sextet with John Coltrane produced a string of classic recordings in the 1950s. Geoffrey Smith selects some of his favourite tracks. Repeat

    This was a good 'un.

    Geoffrey Smith presents music from the Miles Davis Quintet and Sextet with John Coltrane.


    Mon 27 June
    11.00 Jazz Now

    Soweto Kinch presents a concert given by Swedish pianist Bobo Stenson and British saxophonist Martin Speake, recorded at Milton Court in the City of London. Stenson and Speake talk to Al Ryan about improvising and the art of playing as a duo. Emma Smith meets guitarist Femi Temowo, to hear about his work with the award-winning Engines Orchestra, and talks to Tori Freestone about her new album El Barranco.

    Compulsory listening for Tori's interview; and it's been long time since we've heard from ex-Jazz Warrior Femi.



    Ronnie used to say he was discussing forming a band of musicians with debts, and calling themselves The Jazz Worriers
    "The Brexer Brothers", Randy, Mike, Boris and Nigel....

    BN.

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    • Serial_Apologist
      Full Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 37595

      #3
      Originally posted by BLUESNIK'S REVOX View Post
      "The Brexer Brothers", Randy, Mike, Boris and Nigel....

      BN.
      I was in St Sprees this morning, and heard a woman tell her small child, "I mustn't forget to get some Brexit, or your father will be cross". "Don't you mean Breakfast cereal?" I suggested to her. "Yes, why? Did I say Brexit?? It must have really got to me!"

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      • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 4274

        #4
        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
        I was in St Sprees this morning, and heard a woman tell her small child, "I mustn't forget to get some Brexit, or your father will be cross". "Don't you mean Breakfast cereal?" I suggested to her. "Yes, why? Did I say Brexit?? It must have really got to me!"
        God help us! Someone (Welsh) asked me if it meant we could now have our "own currency back". Like he'd been using Euros, doubloons and Russian rubles in Cardiff's Tescos! But, I've put my Barney Wilen CDs in plain covers while I'm over here visiting. The Ukipia are watching...

        BN.

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        • Ian Thumwood
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 4152

          #5
          The result was an absolute embarrassment and is probably the worst crisis that this country will face since 1939. The UK has never been enthusiastic about being in Europe and the country's behaviour throughout it's membership has never been in the spirit of the enterprise. Instead, we should have been fully committed to uniting Europe and forging links with countries like Turkey upon whom more developed countries in Europe could have exerted considerable influence. We should have been far more committed but the European Union is culpable itself in not distributing wealth and income from counties like Germany, Britain and France to poorer ones like Romania. It is an established fact that redistributing income is necessary for a successful economy and if they had done this earlier they would have mitigated immigration.

          Unfortunately the press has totally failed to curb the racist inclinations of Neo-Nazi's such as Nigel Farage. Not only is he a disgrace but giving him a voice has made unelectable politicians like Boris seem mainstream. I am afraid that this will lead to Scotland getting independence as the Scots can quite rightly feel betrayed. They have been royally shafted by the English and the Welsh. I would also have to say that Jeremy Corbyn has been a huge disappointment in the non-campaign he was involved with. Not only has he failed to made Labour resonate with the working classes but he has allowed them to be seduced by politicians who are the 21st century equivalent of Oswald Mosely. I find the attitude of the English to have been extremely selfish and the will deserve everything they get. Regrettably, I think this will mean that Scotland will breakaway and this will jeopardise the likelihood of there ever being another progressive government in this country again. I can't see the Conservatives ever being removed from power and it will be the absolute worst kind of Conservative such as Johnson, Gove and Duncan-Smith who will hold office. One comment I keep on hearing today was about people wishing that they were Scottish. Nicola Sturgeon is the only politician who has come out of the affair. I admire Corbyn but he has been an abject failure in this campaign and we are now in a situation where the UK will be broken up and our economy left shattered. We really need NS to get a grip of the whole of the Uk and not just Scotland. She should be the new PM. The flag of St George is the new swastika.

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          • Tom Audustus

            #6
            Originally posted by BLUESNIK'S REVOX View Post
            God help us! Someone (Welsh) asked me if it meant we could now have our "own currency back". Like he'd been using Euros, doubloons and Russian rubles in Cardiff's Tescos! But, I've put my Barney Wilen CDs in plain covers while I'm over here visiting. The Ukipia are watching...

            BN.
            £sd !!!!

            I used to travel from Newport to Cardiff on the No.30 bus in my youth and it cost 6d (proper money)

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            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
              Gone fishin'
              • Sep 2011
              • 30163

              #7
              Originally posted by Tom Audustus View Post
              £sd !!!!
              I'm moving onto that if the alcohol doesn't work.
              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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              • Serial_Apologist
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 37595

                #8
                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                I'm moving onto that if the alcohol doesn't work.
                You'll put on pounds!

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                • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 4274

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Tom Audustus View Post
                  £sd !!!!

                  I used to travel from Newport to Cardiff on the No.30 bus in my youth and it cost 6d (proper money)
                  I made that trip hundreds of times in the 60s! I used to buy jazz LPs in City Radio in Cardiff. Hip Turkish guy would "click" his mouth in time with PJ Jones' rim shots...and let me listen to Blue notes I couldn't afford.

                  BN.

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                    You'll put on pounds!
                    Yeah - but each one only worth about 7p in current market terms by this time next year
                    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                    • Bryn
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                      Yeah - but each one only worth about 7p in current market terms by this time next year
                      Surely you mean 17d? (1/5).

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                      • Old Grumpy
                        Full Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 3596

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                        Yeah - but each one only worth about 7p in current market terms by this time next year
                        The decline has started already. I went to the post office this morning to draw cash to pay the ceilidh band for my daughter's wedding bash. I signed for £250 on my card, but was only offered £240!

                        I enquired whether this was due to fluctuation in the exchange rate.

                        OG

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                        • Ian Thumwood
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 4152

                          #13
                          The Joe Temperley track was really interesting . About 25 years ago I went a jazz workshop that was run by a session drummer from London and there was a debate during a break about jazz musicians whose reputation was felt not to be merited and Courtney Pine's name amongst a number of the students attending. The teacher was an affable teacher and he defended Pine by saying that any musician offered the kind of media attention and financial redress would have been stupid not to have to gone along with the media hype. He then surprised everyone when asked about who he felt was over-rated and he cited Temperley as the worst musician he had ever worked with and effectively ridiculed his abilities. Given the number of "designer jazz acts" of that time, many of whom quickly fell by the wayside, Temperley seemed an odd choice to be on the receiving end of such criticism , especially as I had always felt that he was a really good musician. It is always interesting to hear other musicians talk about their heroes or to offer critique but this is still probably the most savage criticism I have heard regarding the abilities of a fellow musician. Ever since these comments have made me listen to Temperley a lot closer and the criticism always seems totally unwarranted. However, I think the comparisons with Harry Carney are unhelpful as I feel that the Ellington soloist was more modern.

                          Listening to the track "Sophisticated Lady" (a standard which offers a lot of possibilities to a soloist) I was taken by the whole timbre of his tone. Whilst I would accept that Temperley wasn't that adventurous when you consider just how much jazz has developed, the sound he produced on the baritone strongly reminds me of the tenor greats of the 1930s and 40's and today's request was indicative of the artistry with which he varied his tone to make the performance more interesting. Had this record been made in 1940 it would probably have been singled out as one of the break baritone performances. These days this kind of playing has becoming increasingly out of fashion although totally to the detriment of jazz as a whole. It owed a lot to someone like Ben Webster and it was fascinating to discover that Billy Hart was the drummer on a performance which effectively very much in the spirit of pre-bop. There was a good article with Greg Osby in Jazztimes this week which touched on the technical abilities of the younger jazz musicians these days which surpasses the kind of jazz produced as recently as the 1990s. Temperley's approach was also mirrored by the impressive Harold Land performance which also shared the same kind of values. Another couple of reviews on All about jazz discussed the recent piano trio records by Kenny Barron and Bill Charlap and offered the suggestion that this style of jazz is becoming increasingly rare and that the craftsmanship of earlier generations of jazz musicians is now something that it at risk of being entirely lost. I am struggling to think of any musicians in 2016 who would share Temperley's attention to the wide range of nuances produced on his instrument.

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                          • Serial_Apologist
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 37595

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
                            The decline has started already. I went to the post office this morning to draw cash to pay the ceilidh band for my daughter's wedding bash. I signed for £250 on my card, but was only offered £240!

                            I enquired whether this was due to fluctuation in the exchange rate.

                            OG
                            Listening as I was to the results as they came out throughout Thursday night (because I couldn't sleep) when at one point it was commented that a Brexit vote could cause another banking crisis, I put my clothes on, got on my bike, and cycled the mile down to my nearest cashpoint, where I drew out a couple of hundred quid, thinking, it might be best to have some sort of cushion in case the banks stop people drawing money out.

                            South London at 5 am on midsummer morning was a surprisingly beautiful and peaceful place - only blackbirds singing, and just two cars passing by.

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                            • Serial_Apologist
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 37595

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Ian Thumwood View Post
                              I am struggling to think of any musicians in 2016 who would share Temperley's attention to the wide range of nuances produced on his instrument.
                              Well if you're including older musicians, Evan Parker's name comes straight to mind.

                              Working as I currently am on a certain musician's output in the year 1999, I was going through all the cassettes I made of British jazz from broadcasts in that year - a lot: I must have had a particular wish to document that last year of the old Millennium - I came across a live recording of Julian Joseph's trio in concert with bassist orlando le Fleming on bass (now in the States I hear) and the guitarist Adam Salkeld. Julian is interviewed by Kevin Le Gendre, and makes some revealing comments with regards to the technical abilities of the younger college intake of that time and its relationship to what he saw as the right attitude to playing "in the tradition". If that sounds very Marsalish, he obviously holds the brothers in high esteem while holding nuanced differences from their philosophy. If I can find the time I'll dictate down the pertinent parts of the interview from my D90, and replicate them here - maybe later tonight or tomorrow: it takes time to do. I think you might find yourself in not inconsiderable agreement with what he has to say, Ian.

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