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  • Serial_Apologist
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    • Dec 2010
    • 37812

    Pick ourselves up, brush ourselves down, and start all over again

    In view of today's terrible news of the murder of Jo Cox, MP for Batley, I was looking for a suitable title to this thread - I hope it will be taken in the spirit I intended.

    Sat 18 June
    Jazz record Requests

    Among this week's listener's requests, Alyn Shipton plays a track from blind Chicago pianist Chris Anderson (1926-2008) and bassist Charlie Haden.



    5.00 Jazz Line-Up
    Julian Joseph presents a performance from Northern Monkey Brass Band, a collective of some of the finest drum and brass players in north-west England

    Julian Joseph presents the Northern Monkey Brass Band at the 2016 Gateshead Jazz Festival.


    12.00 Geoffrey Smith's Jazz
    Famous for his fiery saxophone attack, New York-born Jackie McLean (1931-2006) was a teenage protege of Charlie Parker, sideman with Miles Davis and Charles Mingus, and a trail-blazer in hard bop and free jazz. Geoffrey Smith surveys his passionate output.

    http://www,bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07gn3xp

    Mon 20 June
    11.00 Jazz Now

    Soweto Kinch introduces a set by Chicago trumpeter Rob Mazurek's band Black Cube SP, and there is an interview with Tropicalia pioneers Gilberto Gil and Caetano Veloso.

    Soweto Kinch introduces a set by Chicagoan trumpeter Rob Mazurek's Black Cube SP.
    Last edited by Serial_Apologist; 16-06-16, 17:41.
  • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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    • Dec 2010
    • 4313

    #2
    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
    In view of today's terrible news of the murder of Jo Cox, MP for Batley, I was looking for a suitable title to this thread - I hope it will be taken in the spirit I intended.

    Sat 18 June
    Jazz record Requests

    Among this week's listener's requests, Alyn Shipton plays a track from blind Chicago pianist Chris Anderson (1926-2008) and bassist Charlie Haden.



    5.00 Jazz Line-Up
    Julian Joseph presents a performance from Northern Monkey Brass Band, a collective of some of the finest drum and brass players in north-west England

    Julian Joseph presents the Northern Monkey Brass Band at the 2016 Gateshead Jazz Festival.


    12.00 Geoffrey Smith's Jazz
    Famous for his fiery saxophone attack, New York-born Jackie McLean (1931-2006) was a teenage protege of Charlie Parker, sideman with Miles Davis and Charles Mingus, and a trail-blazer in hard bop and free jazz. Geoffrey Smith surveys his passionate output.

    http://www,bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07gn3xp

    Mon 20 June
    11.00 Jazz Now

    Soweto Kinch introduces a set by Chicago trumpeter Rob Mazurek's band Black Cube SP, and there is an interview with Tropicalia pioneers Gilberto Gil and Caetano Veloso.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07gnc53
    Chris Anderson is/was fascinating. A big influence on the fledgling Herbie Hancock. There's a wonderful, very abstract, solo version of "There's a lull in my life" on YouTube.

    As for Comrade Jackie, there's a great (if spacey) recollection (YouTube again) by Bobby Hutcherson on how he first joined Jackie's classic band with Moncur and Tony Williams etc and the run up to the Bluenote dates. "Alfred just loved Jackie, he would say "Jaaaaaackie, we must record zis amazing music immediately!!!....he just loved to say, "Jaaaaackie!", very drawn out!"

    Terrible news today, Britain gets more introverted, sicker and vindictive by the hour. I wonder why.

    BN.

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    • Ian Thumwood
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      • Dec 2010
      • 4223

      #3
      Originally posted by BLUESNIK'S REVOX View Post
      Terrible news today, Britain gets more introverted, sicker and vindictive by the hour. I wonder why.

      BN.

      Easy to understand. People of low intelligent stoked up by the likes of Nigel Farage. English Nationalism is every bit an repellent as IS. The media has as lot to answer for given the fact that they have acted as a mouthpiece for Farage's twisted views.

      I am still undecided about Mazurek albeit I think he is one musician you would have to say is decidedly at the cutting edge of jazz. I have his album "Double Demon" which I quite like but would have to say is one of the strangest trios I have in my collection as it features cornet, vibes and drums. The vibes almost act as an alternative drummer and Mazurek and it is very intense, Mazurek hardly taking his horn from his lips. I much prefer this duo with guitarist Jeff Parker - a musician whose work encompasses rock, free jazz, fusion and straight ahead but who is always interesting. This is really good:-



      Much admit that I quite like Caetano Veloso

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      • Ian Thumwood
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        • Dec 2010
        • 4223

        #4
        Bluesnik

        Combining the theme of Mazurek and Jackie McLean, wondered what you think of this. Here is an augmented version of Starlicker with the excellent Nicole Mitchell on flute. Shame that she wasn't featured on the Delmark disk as she really adds value to this band which becomes more interesting with a fourth member. The line up does suggest Mc Lean's famous quintet with Hutcherson but I think that this band have perhaps an even harder edge. I don't recommend Mazurek's shirt though - very 1970's.

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        • Old Grumpy
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          • Jan 2011
          • 3643

          #5
          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
          In view of today's terrible news of the murder of Jo Cox, MP for Batley, I was looking for a suitable title to this thread - I hope it will be taken in the spirit I intended.



          5.00 Jazz Line-Up
          Julian Joseph presents a performance from Northern Monkey Brass Band, a collective of some of the finest drum and brass players in north-west England

          Julian Joseph presents the Northern Monkey Brass Band at the 2016 Gateshead Jazz Festival.

          Haway, S_A man, man - Northern Monkey Brass Band are from the North East man, ye should nar that, man!

          OG

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          • Jazzrook
            Full Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 3108

            #6
            Originally posted by BLUESNIK'S REVOX View Post
            Chris Anderson is/was fascinating. A big influence on the fledgling Herbie Hancock. There's a wonderful, very abstract, solo version of "There's a lull in my life" on YouTube.

            As for Comrade Jackie, there's a great (if spacey) recollection (YouTube again) by Bobby Hutcherson on how he first joined Jackie's classic band with Moncur and Tony Williams etc and the run up to the Bluenote dates. "Alfred just loved Jackie, he would say "Jaaaaaackie, we must record zis amazing music immediately!!!....he just loved to say, "Jaaaaackie!", very drawn out!"

            Terrible news today, Britain gets more introverted, sicker and vindictive by the hour. I wonder why.

            BN.
            Horrific news about Jo Cox.
            With the Leave campaign whipping up xenophobia and racism I really fear a Brexit followed by a Johnson/Gove government with Farage on board.

            JR

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            • Serial_Apologist
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              • Dec 2010
              • 37812

              #7
              Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
              Haway, S_A man, man - Northern Monkey Brass Band are from the North East man, ye should nar that, man!

              OG
              Doon't blame me, mon - I'm oonly the organ-grainder!

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              • Barbirollians
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                • Nov 2010
                • 11751

                #8
                Originally posted by Jazzrook View Post
                Horrific news about Jo Cox.
                With the Leave campaign whipping up xenophobia and racism I really fear a Brexit followed by a Johnson/Gove government with Farage on board.

                JR
                In which case it would be time for civil disobedience !!!

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                • Old Grumpy
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                  • Jan 2011
                  • 3643

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jazzrook View Post
                  Horrific news about Jo Cox.
                  With the Leave campaign whipping up xenophobia and racism I really fear a Brexit followed by a Johnson/Gove government with Farage on board.

                  JR
                  I hope Sir Bob will be around to shout at him!

                  OG

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                  • Old Grumpy
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                    • Jan 2011
                    • 3643

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                    Doon't blame me, mon - I'm oonly the organ-grainder!
                    Just got it...

                    ... canny joke, like!

                    Ald Grumpy

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                    • Serial_Apologist
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                      • Dec 2010
                      • 37812

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post
                      Just got it...

                      ... canny joke, like!

                      Ald Grumpy
                      My mum used to say "haway". Middlesbro, like.

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                      • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 4313

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                        My mum used to say "haway". Middlesbro, like.
                        Really enjoyable JRR program this week (and last). That Humph, Wally Fawkes and Bruce Turner blues went down a treat. And as a firm modernist, tonic mohair suiterist and owner of a Bluenote biro (as used by Hank Monkey to do the Guardian crossword) , that's no mean admission.

                        BN.

                        Thinking of requesting Don Wilkerson's surprisingly kicking " Texas Twister" soooooooon to shake the tables.

                        BN.

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                        • Ian Thumwood
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 4223

                          #13
                          The Henderson record was fascinating. Shame that the recording quality wasn't better able to capture the band but I really enjoyed hearing that for the first time.

                          The Chris Anderson track reminded me a bit of Paul Bley and the Japanese pianist Kikuchi. but I wish they had given him a better piano to play on. The tune was a bit of a hackneyed standard yet I liked the way that he coaxed the subtle harmonies out of the tune and started to spin out his lines.

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                          • Ian Thumwood
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                            • Dec 2010
                            • 4223

                            #14
                            The Black Cube SP set was a bit of an acquired taste. It was interesting to hear Mazurek in a different context to the "Double Demon Trio" which is where I am most familiar with his work, The set appeared to get better as it progressed yet the opening number was almost unlistenable. I found that the cornet just seemed to be relentless and the other members of the band didn't feature quite as much as you would have expected. The later stuff got better and it gradually became more interesting yet I think the whole Brazilian / Free mash up probably reached it's apogee with the likes of Ebgerto Gismonti on albums like "Sinfonia." The Black Cube set probably split a lot of listeners. Mazurek is probably as "outside" as you can get yet I much prefer Josh Berman as a cornetist. Berman's playing requires a lot of attention to really understand whereas Mazurek is right in your face. The big difference is that Berman seems to listen more to his fellow musicians whilst Mazurek sometimes seems to play despite his fellow musicians. The set improved as it progressed, even though I am not a fan of the spoken word content. The best elements were where the Brazilian influence took a greater hold.

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