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  • Ian Thumwood
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    • Dec 2010
    • 4416

    I was never aware of that track. It is a shame that Evans was so under recorded but there are a number of really obscure arrangements that never saw tgw light of day. I am aware that he wrote charts for a wealthy Turkish jazz musician in the late forties which are all but ignored. My recollection was that this was the fulfilment of a hobby. There are also a number of charts written for Benny Goodman's tour of Russia qhich were never used and ditched alongside some Tadd Dameron pieces which were rarely played albeit they made it to both a BG and Dameron big band session. I believe the Evans charts are still wiith the Goodman estate which also included a lot of Henderson arrangements which BG never recorded.

    The likes of Ryan Truesdell have rescued some Evans charts from both end of his career starting with Claude Thornhill. I was aware that Evans had done alot of comnercial work too and not all of which was jazz. Pre Thornhill he had led a band which was later taken over by Skinnay Ennis which was a sweet band akin to Hal Kemp's. Never heard many of these 1930,s arrangements but imagine they have nothing to do with jazz / swing and would be far removed from the work of his influences Louis Armstrong and Red Nichols.

    The Mathis track is very typical of Gil Evans from.that era. Thanks for posting

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    • Jazzrook
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      • Mar 2011
      • 3210

      Never heard of that Johnny Mathis/Gil Evans 1956 recording before. A version of this album, with a different track listing, is currently available at a bargain price on Amazon coupled with his second Columbia album ‘Wonderful, Wonderful’(ASIN: B00005EBV9).
      I’m not usually a fan of Johnny Mathis but enjoyed that track. Thanks for posting, BN.

      JR
      Last edited by Jazzrook; 29-03-25, 22:13.

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      • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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        • Dec 2010
        • 4376

        I also didn't realise what a huge and consistent seller for Columbia Mathis was over the years. He started out singing at the Blackhawk in San Francisco so the initial "jazz" context fitted. Later producers moved him on. He seems to have retained a love of jazz but as he said, the greatest musicians but that was not where the money was.

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        • elmo
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          • Nov 2010
          • 563

          I like this arrangement of "travellin light" by Gil Evans for an obscure pop singer called Marcy Lutes. Marcy is ok but Gil's arrangement and orchestral voicings are great.



          elmo

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          • Jazzrook
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            • Mar 2011
            • 3210

            Chris Spedding with Paul Rutherford, John Mitchell, Butch Potter & John Marshall playing ‘Station Song’ from the 1969 pre-Nucleus album ‘Songs Without Words’:



            JR
            Last edited by Jazzrook; 31-03-25, 16:07.

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            • Serial_Apologist
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              • Dec 2010
              • 38356

              Originally posted by Jazzrook View Post
              Chris Spedding with Paul Rutherford, John Mitchell, Butch Potter & John Marshall playing ‘Station Song’ from the 1969 pre-Nucleus album ‘Songs Without Words’:



              JR
              Quite a find! - hadn't come across this recording before. Highly unusual to find Paul Rutherford in an outfit such as this, I think.

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              • Jazzrook
                Full Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 3210

                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post

                Quite a find! - hadn't come across this recording before. Highly unusual to find Paul Rutherford in an outfit such as this, I think.
                Chris Spedding hated the album and tried to prevent its release.

                Here are a couple of reviews of ‘Songs Without Words’:

                Chris Spedding: Songs Without Words is a music studio album recording by NUCLEUS (Jazz Rock/Fusion/Progressive Rock) released in 1970 on cd, lp / vinyl and/or cassette. This page includes Chris Spedding: Songs Without Words's : cover picture, songs / tracks list, members/musicians and line-up, different releases details, free MP3 download (stream), buy online links: amazon, ratings and detailled reviews by our experts, collaborators and members.


                JR
                Last edited by Jazzrook; 31-03-25, 18:32.

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                • Serial_Apologist
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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 38356

                  Originally posted by Jazzrook View Post

                  Chris Spedding hate the album and tried to prevent its release.

                  Here are a couple of reviews of ‘Songs Without Words’:

                  Chris Spedding: Songs Without Words is a music studio album recording by NUCLEUS (Jazz Rock/Fusion/Progressive Rock) released in 1970 on cd, lp / vinyl and/or cassette. This page includes Chris Spedding: Songs Without Words's : cover picture, songs / tracks list, members/musicians and line-up, different releases details, free MP3 download (stream), buy online links: amazon, ratings and detailled reviews by our experts, collaborators and members.


                  JR
                  Thanks!

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                  • Ian Thumwood
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 4416

                    Originally posted by Mario
                    Again, new names to me I’m afraid, but enjoying

                    Love is the sweetest thing
                    Al Bowlly & Ray Noble Orch & Lew Stone Orch

                    Talkin’ to myself
                    Ted Weems & His Orch

                    Ted Weems was an American dance band leader from 20s and 30s but Ray Noble differed insofar that he left the States and found fame in London. Not a fan of either of these bands nor the South African singer Al Bowlly who was ultimately killed in an air raid. My piano teacher played in a number of british big bands in the late 30s and 1940s but he became mesmerised by bebop and his view of these bands was pretty disparaging. I recall him talking about Lew Stone and the equivalent of the casting couch for girl singers !

                    There used to be another poster in here who liked these dance bands. It is difficult to appreciate that the 'jazz scene' in 20s and 30s incorporated these kinds of bands. I have to admit being a massive fan of big band jazz from this era and love bands like Duke Ellington , Fletcher Henderson , McKinney's Cottonpickers , Bennie Moten ,.Andy Kirk, Luis Russell, etc where you can really sense where the thrust of jazz development was at that time. I would recommend these bands are well worth checking out. The likes of Weems and Noble did not really have much to do with jazz but fair play to you checking them out.



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                    • Jazzrook
                      Full Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 3210

                      Warne Marsh with Ronnie Ball, Red Mitchell & Stan Levey playing ‘Ad Libido’ in 1957 from ‘Music For Prancing’:



                      JR

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                      • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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                        • Dec 2010
                        • 4376

                        Coleman Hawkins "Juicy Fruit" from "The Hawk flies high" Riverside 1857. An album where Hawkins was allowed to pick his own band so, JJ Johnson, Idris Sullieman, etc, a tad "modern". This must have been a good period for Hawkins, the Monk sides included. As one review says Sullieman almost stalls the track with his one note circular breathing feature but it all works out. On French radio this morning...I will now buy.

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                        • Jazzrook
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                          • Mar 2011
                          • 3210

                          Hank Mobley with Kenny Dorham, Sonny Clark, Jimmy Rowser & Art Taylor playing ‘Don’t Get Too Hip’ from the Blue Note album ‘Curtain Call’, recorded in 1957 but not released until 1984, in Japan:



                          JR

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                          • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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                            • Dec 2010
                            • 4376

                            Ray Charles, Atlantic 1953. "The Sun's goin' to shine"

                            ​​​​Early Atlantic sides, still with a pick up session band, but all magnificent. And appropriate to the weather.

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                            • Ian Thumwood
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                              • Dec 2010
                              • 4416

                              I have been spinning some of Steve Lacy's earlier records from about 1958 and 1962 plus Miles Davis' 'Miles smiles.' It is fascinating to see how the approach to jazz changed so quickly. I love all of this music but thr Davis album just seems like Lacy was toying with more advanced and freer music. I never realised that there was a 2 year gap between the first and second MD 2ND qt studio albums.

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                              • Jazzrook
                                Full Member
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 3210

                                Tyrone Washington(aka Mohammad Bilal Abdullah) with Woody Shaw, James Spaulding, Kenny Barron, Reggie Workman & Joe Chambers playing ‘Positive Path’ recorded in 1967 from the Blue Note album ‘Natural Essence’:



                                JR
                                Last edited by Jazzrook; 07-04-25, 19:48.

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