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The second CD of the deluxe edition of Giant Steps comprising the outtakes. For some reason there is an alternate take of 'Like Sonny' - surely that belongs to the Coltrane Jazz outtakes?
I imagine it's with Giant Steps because Trane recorded it with Cedar Walton at the run through for the initial GS session. "Like Sonny" itself is Trane's lift from Rollins' solo on My Old Flame with Kenny Dorham. That phrase expanded, which shows how close he listened to Sonny.
"John Coltrane first recorded his composition Like Sonny during his initial recording session for Giant Steps, his debut LP for Atlantic, on March 26, 1959. The personnel on the first attempt: John Coltrane (ts), Cedar Walton (p), Paul Chambers (b) and Lex Humphries (d). But the song wasn't used on Giant Steps, which came out in February 1960"
The second CD of the deluxe edition of Giant Steps comprising the outtakes. For some reason there is an alternate take of 'Like Sonny' - surely that belongs to the Coltrane Jazz outtakes?
According to my Coltrane discography a version of 'Like Sonny' was recorded in NYC on April 1, 1959 along with 'Giant Steps' & 'Naima' - Cedar Walton(piano); Paul Chambers(bass) & Lex Humphries(drums).
Thanks for the info, BN & JR. That'll be why. Actually JR, I've just consulted the booklet for the boxed set of The Complete Atlantic Recordings and it seems the session you mention happened on March 26 rather than April 1. EDIT: I just noticed that that's what BN said...
Thanks for the info, BN & JR. That'll be why. Actually JR, I've just consulted the booklet for the boxed set of The Complete Atlantic Recordings and it seems the session you mention happened on March 26 rather than April 1. EDIT: I just noticed that that's what BN said...
These minutiae are very important - fisticuffs have been occasioned by less!
Thanks for the info, BN & JR. That'll be why. Actually JR, I've just consulted the booklet for the boxed set of The Complete Atlantic Recordings and it seems the session you mention happened on March 26 rather than April 1. EDIT: I just noticed that that's what BN said...
I've checked with Lewis Porter's 1998 book on Coltrane and he gives the date as March 26(formerly thought to be April 1). I was quoting from a discography in Brian Priestley's 1987 book on Coltrane.
Anyway, here's the Rollins' phrase(3:22) in 'My Old Flame' recorded in 1957 that BN mentioned:
These minutiae are very important - fisticuffs have been occasioned by less!
Well, when I was about thirteen I got into a fight with my best friend after he claimed Elvis actually played the electric guitar solo in "King Creole"! Rolling around the playground thumping each other after I laughed at his endless Elvis gullibility. "You saw the film with me!" he shouted, "he bloody did". "He was holding an acoustic and miming to the soundtrack!", I further sneered. SMACK!
Well, when I was about thirteen I got into a fight with my best friend after he claimed Elvis actually played the electric guitar solo in "King Creole"! Rolling around the playground thumping each other after I laughed at his endless Elvis gullibility. "You saw the film with me!" he shouted, "he bloody did". "He was holding an acoustic and miming to the soundtrack!", I further sneered. SMACK!
Not to mention the arguments over which year Herbie Hancock went over to electric piano - was it in '67 or '68? - and that was among the musicians!
I walked into town late this morning to pick up Coltrane's Evenings At The Village Gate from HMV. It's good - while the drums are still a bit louder in relation to some of the other instruments (e.g. Dolphy's flute) it's not like it was with the A Love Supreme live from Seattle disk, where it impacted upon one's pleasure.
I walked into town late this morning to pick up Coltrane's Evenings At The Village Gate from HMV. It's good - while the drums are still a bit louder in relation to some of the other instruments (e.g. Dolphy's flute) it's not like it was with the A Love Supreme live from Seattle disk, where it impacted upon one's pleasure.
A few more tracks into this (currently on the third, 'Impressions') and really enjoying it. Might have to listen to some of the Coltrane European Tour 1961 boxed set later (which also features Dolphy) which I feel lucky to own - seems it's no longer available and going for a silly price on amazon.
I used to own the Miles Davis boxed set The Cellar Door Sessions, but it was stolen - except for the fifth CD, which, being my favourite CD from that set, I had taken with me in my CD pouch (one of about 10 CDs that I kept in that pouch) and thus didn't get stolen. So I'm spinning it now and it's glorious... sort of brings back memories of listening to Live-Evil in my last year of uni. Oh yeah, and I am now lucky enough to have The Cellar DoorSessions in their entirety on my laptop, thanks to Richard B.
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