What Jazz are you listening to now?

[Ian Thumwood]

This is really good!!!

[Serial_Apologist]

This is really good!!!

I'm not so sure it is - the entire LP, I mean! I don't share your enthusiasm for Rypdal. He came close to ruining John Surman's Morning Glory LP of 1973 for me - Ray Russell would have been a better choice of guitarist: he could at least play in tune. The "blues" tracks on this are cringey, though the Gil Evansey big band tracks such as this one are all right. I found that album in a secondhand rack years ago, and keep it as a curiosity.

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

Steve Lacy/Roswell Rudd group - "Regeneration", Italy 1982...with Misha Mengelberg & Han Bennink. I've had a tape of this from the 1980s when it was played (I dimly recall) in place of Humph's program because of a tape failure or some tech problem. Anyway, it's a mostly Monk & Herbie Nichols selection and I'm pleased to have tracked down the album because it's just wonderful, from all concerned. (I think it's Kent Carter on bass).

Here 'Tis....http://youtu.be/vmTTXIkF-8A

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

And appropriately, Ornette Coleman Qrt (Cherry, Haden, Higgins) - "Monk and the Nun", from the Atlantic "Twins", the remainders of the Atlantic contract, with no diminution of quality. I really love this period and Billy Higgins is a BLOODY joy!

http://youtu.be/mEN4HkvAyTM

[Serial_Apologist]

And appropriately, Ornette Coleman Qrt (Cherry, Haden, Higgins) - "Monk and the Nun", from the Atlantic "Twins", the remainders of the Atlantic contract, with no diminution of quality. I really love this period and Billy Higgins is a BLOODY joy!

http://youtu.be/mEN4HkvAyTM

I've never been able to make up my mind which of the two drummers of that period I prefer: Billy Higgins or Ed Blackwell. Both brought so much to those early Ornette sides.

[Jazzrook]

Yusef Lateef playing 'Angel Eyes' with Stan Tracey, Rick Laird & Bill Eyden live at Ronnie Scott's, January 15, 1966:

https://www.YouTube.com/watch?v=FRoOhQzLhNM

JR

[Stanfordian]

‘Open Sesame’ - Freddie Hubbard
Freddie Hubbard with Tina Brooks, McCoy Tyner, Sam Jones & Clifford Jarvis
Blue Note (1960)

[Ian Thumwood]

Picking up on an earlier comment as to who was Ornette's best drummer, I have been listening to "The Croydon concert" this morning and think that the trio with Moffatt and Izenzon was much sharper than the quartet that made sides for Atlantic. I had forgotten how good this record is and I just feel that this trio capitalised on the innovations of the original band. It just sounds to me that Ornette's "vision" was more realised by the trio. There are times where the communication is as good if not better than with the classic Bill Evans trio with LaFaro and Motian. Unfortunately the chamber piece for wind ensemble , "Forms and sounds" is a non-starter for me. I like a lot of Classical music and I like Ornette's jazz. However, although Ornette dabbling in Classical music might be an interesting academic idea on paper, it falls a long way short of a lot of 20th century chamber music and lacks the snap and crackle of his jazz work. It strikes me as strange that no matter how "odd " his alto solos may sound, they are under-pinned by lyricism as well as a very strong sense of rhythm and dynamics. In the chamber composition, I feel both elements are missing.

[Stanfordian]

‘Clifford Brown & Max Roach’
Clifford Brown, Harold Land, George Morrow, Richie Powell & Max Roach
EmArcy (1954)

[eighthobstruction]

Lester Young avec O Peterson trio....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNl63ARx0DM

[CGR]

Serenity
Bobo Stenson Trio
ECM

[Serial_Apologist]

Picking up on an earlier comment as to who was Ornette's best drummer, I have been listening to "The Croydon concert" this morning and think that the trio with Moffatt and Izenzon was much sharper than the quartet that made sides for Atlantic. I had forgotten how good this record is and I just feel that this trio capitalised on the innovations of the original band. It just sounds to me that Ornette's "vision" was more realised by the trio. There are times where the communication is as good if not better than with the classic Bill Evans trio with LaFaro and Motian. Unfortunately the chamber piece for wind ensemble , "Forms and sounds" is a non-starter for me. I like a lot of Classical music and I like Ornette's jazz. However, although Ornette dabbling in Classical music might be an interesting academic idea on paper, it falls a long way short of a lot of 20th century chamber music and lacks the snap and crackle of his jazz work. It strikes me as strange that no matter how "odd " his alto solos may sound, they are under-pinned by lyricism as well as a very strong sense of rhythm and dynamics. In the chamber composition, I feel both elements are missing.

I think witrh the trio with Moffatt and Izentzon Coleman moved into a kind of fee modality, often improvising lengthily over ostensibly unchanging tonal centres in ways that were closer to the classic Coltrane quartet at its pre-1965 freest, as in "Chasin' the Trane", where to our untutored listening habits back then it wasn't clear whether blues changes were being improvised on. Ornette had always treated of key centres very freely, key changing at liberty with a happy abandon that had Haden right there with him, poised on a sixpence to make those unexpected leaps. The new drummer seemed closer in some ways in spirit to Elvin - maintaining and ever elaborating a pulse while implying all sorts of ambiguities where the "one" still was, if anywhere! - and this allowed, maybe inspired is a better word, Ornette to improvise at greater length. And of course there was now no Don Cherry to "cede" to!

[Padraig]

- maintaining and ever elaborating a pulse while implying all sorts of ambiguities where the "one" still was, if anywhere! - and this allowed, maybe inspired is a better word, Ornette to improvise at greater length. And of course there was now no Don Cherry to "cede" to!

Certainly not 'very Trad Jazz', S_A - not even 'Trad'.

[Serial_Apologist]

Certainly not 'very Trad Jazz', S_A - not even 'Trad'.

Not "Back to Basiecks", to quote Johnny Major.

And certainly not clickety clockety clop, at any rate!

[Serial_Apologist]

Just been watching the two VHS's I recorded the Stan Tracey and Robert Wyatt BBC documentaries on in 2003/4.