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  • Stanfordian
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    • Dec 2010
    • 9308

    ‘Natural Essence’
    Tyrone Washington with James Spaulding, Kenny Barron, Woody Shaw, Joe Chambers & Reggie Workman
    Blue Note (1967)

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    • Serial_Apologist
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      • Dec 2010
      • 37559

      Originally posted by Jazzrook View Post
      Lennie Tristano's 'Descent into the Maelstrom' composed in 1953.

      This could create quite a stir if played on JRR!

      Artist: Lennie TristanoAlbum: Descent into the MaelstromLabel: Inner City Records (1978)Lennie Tristano: pianoTristano's home studio, NYC, 1953Engineer: Lenn...


      JR
      Never knew that existed. If that was performed at the time it would have re-written jazz history - extraordinary! And many thanks JR.

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      • Joseph K
        Banned
        • Oct 2017
        • 7765

        Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
        ‘Natural Essence’
        Tyrone Washington with James Spaulding, Kenny Barron, Woody Shaw, Joe Chambers & Reggie Workman
        Blue Note (1967)
        Just curious, do you stream all these albums or actually own them as CDs?

        Now listening (via CD):

        Virtuoso - Joe Pass

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        • Stanfordian
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          • Dec 2010
          • 9308

          Originally posted by Joseph K View Post
          Just curious, do you stream all these albums or actually own them as CDs?

          Now listening (via CD):

          Virtuoso - Joe Pass
          I never stream. Own them all on CD! However, the very rare exception is this one which is only a CD-R, one of the half dozen or so I have.
          Last edited by Stanfordian; 30-08-18, 14:25.

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          • Joseph K
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            • Oct 2017
            • 7765

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            • Jazzrook
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              • Mar 2011
              • 3061

              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
              Never knew that existed. If that was performed at the time it would have re-written jazz history - extraordinary! And many thanks JR.
              I believe 'Descent into the Maelstrom' was recorded in 1953 using overdubbing in Tristano's home studio in NYC.
              Apparently it's an improvised conception of an Edgar Allan Poe story.
              Way ahead of his time!

              JR

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              • Stanfordian
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                • Dec 2010
                • 9308


                ‘Heavy!!!’

                The Booker Ervin Sextet: Booker Ervin, Jimmy Owens, Garnett Brown, Jaki Byard, Richard Davis & Alan Dawson
                Blue Note (1966)
                Last edited by Stanfordian; 30-08-18, 14:23.

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                • Serial_Apologist
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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 37559

                  Originally posted by Jazzrook View Post
                  I believe 'Descent into the Maelstrom' was recorded in 1953 using overdubbing in Tristano's home studio in NYC.
                  Apparently it's an improvised conception of an Edgar Allan Poe story.
                  Way ahead of his time!

                  JR
                  If that was The Pit and the Pendulum, it would need to be heard from behind the sofa!

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                  • Serial_Apologist
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 37559

                    Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post

                    ‘Heavy!!!’

                    The Brooker Erwin Sextet: Booker Ervin, Jimmy Owens, Garnett Brown Jaki Byard, Richard Davis & Alan Dawson
                    Blue Note (1966)
                    That's one fantastic album I really should have - what line-up! I had the privilege of meeting Jaki Byard at a festival once - with his New York Jewish wife, who was one of the funniest people I ever met.

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                    • Ian Thumwood
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                      • Dec 2010
                      • 4129

                      I was not aware of that track either although I knew Tristano experimented with multi-tracking.

                      By coincidence, one of the albums I was listening to in my car last week was the solo disc "The New Tristano." I think this disc is worth the money for "C Minor complex" alone and it is a track that I have loved since I first heard it in the mid 1990's. The whole album is quite intriguing although nothing else on it quite lives up to this one track. Most of the tunes are contrafacts on standards although there is a paraphrase on one number that derives from "Donna Lee" which itself is based upon the changes of "Indiana." Tristano is fascinating for so many reasons and I find his playing to be full of paradoxes. For all his avant credentials, the music he produced usually stems from standards so the "Maelstrom" composition is quite a revelation. He famously included two spontaneously improvised pieces with his sextet and these two tracks caused the record label Capitol to panic and they then abruptly ceased dealing with Modern Jazz and concentrated on much more mainstream material. I also think that there is a coldness with his analytical approach to jazz which makes him perhaps even closer to the ethos of someone like Bach than John Lewis simply because he eschewed dynamics. The solo piano music is almost mechanical and lacks a human quality yet the despite the lack of emotion it really fascinates. "The New Tristano" is an interesting record and pretty mesmerising yet "C minor complex" strikes me as being the one piece he recorded where the potential of his ideas met full fruition. If anything, I think the "problem" with Tristano was that he was actually too ahead of his time and despite his avowed love of Charlie Parker, listening to this solo record makes me wonder just how much more at home he would have been with the way jazz has evolved today. The whole concept of how Tristano tackled improvisation is almost unique in jazz because the music is about the process more than anything else. I love his interplay between his two hands when he solos and the use of cross rhythms. I also would have to say that the whole album is almost totally devoid of themes or heads and have always been staggered that a label like Atlantic took a punt on it. Part of Tristano's musical language sounds to me like it comes out of Be-bop yet he deploys these ideas in a fashion that still seems unique.

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                      • Beef Oven!
                        Ex-member
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 18147

                        Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post

                        ‘Heavy!!!’

                        The Booker Ervin Sextet: Booker Ervin, Jimmy Owens, Garnett Brown, Jaki Byard, Richard Davis & Alan Dawson
                        Blue Note (1966)
                        I don't know this at all.

                        But the date, the label, the lineup and the year .................. It's a must listen, for me! Thanks for the heads up on this, Stan.

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                        • Stanfordian
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 9308

                          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                          I don't know this at all.

                          But the date, the label, the lineup and the year .................. It's a must listen, for me! Thanks for the heads up on this, Stan.
                          It's on YouTube.

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                          • Beef Oven!
                            Ex-member
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 18147

                            Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
                            It's on YouTube.
                            I'm listening to it on YouTube right now! I'm near the end of track 2. Flippin' marvellous! Again, thanks for bringing this to our attention

                            P.S. Very good sound quality on this YouTube upload .....

                            This is a keeper, though - I'll wait for a reasonably priced download or CD to come along.

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                            • Serial_Apologist
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 37559

                              Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
                              It's on YouTube.
                              Good! - must check tomorrow, thanks!

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                              • Beef Oven!
                                Ex-member
                                • Sep 2013
                                • 18147

                                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                                Good! - must check tomorrow, thanks!
                                Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

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