Originally posted by Ian Thumwood
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What Jazz are you listening to now?
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Originally posted by DracoM View PostWhat jazz am I listening to? As ever, Alyn Shipton 4 p.m. Sats. And particularly the Mike Wesbrook track.
Agree about the Westbrook track - very timely. Plus ça change, etc etc...
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Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
I did not realise that Zeitlin went back so far. He is a mystical name, familiar to me largely through The Real Book and I cannot recall ever having heard him play. (I have the same impression of Art Lande who I can only ever having heard once on an old Jan Garbarek disc.) Having had a quick listen, the style clearly comes out of Bill Evans. I would have to admit that I would have probably mistaken him for Bill Evans. Charlie Haden still sounds quite distinctive . I am not familiar with Granelli. Having listened to be bit of it, I really like this record and I thank you for drawing my attention to something I had no awareness of.)
The obvious thing about the record is the poor sound recording which is brittle and thin. Sonically, the engineering is worse than the Corea record. It is a real bugbear of mine that pianos are invariably poorly recorded on many jazz albums. The piano in the Prestige studio often sounded woeful and you even get stinkers on blue Note like the instrument Wynton Kelly was forced to play on Hank Mobley's "Roll call." It is a shame like that this Zeitlin disc was not better served by the people recording the gig. I have quite a collection of Classical Music too but most of my records all date from the 1980's bar a Bartok Piano Concerto record which was recorded earlier. I mention this as I am not aware of CLassical pianists being given a similar disservice by poor pianos and recording other than a Scriabin disc of Opus 8 Etudes which is quite wretched. Jazz always seems to get a disservice.
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Originally posted by CGR View PostCharlie Parker Complete Royal Roost Broadcasts
Charlie Parker etc.
Jazz Dynamics
Recorded off-air in 1948 & 49. Sound quality is what you would expect from this sort of recording but the infectious magic of the music comes across despite all the imperfections.
but I'd draw the line at some of the Benedetti stuff - too painful
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The Denny Zeitlin album is great - only heard of him from old copies of Downbeat!
on CBS - they must have been expecting a lot from him, but wasn't it also the time the company was starting to lose interest in Mainstream Jazz?
Wouldn't mistake him for Bill Evans though he historically is in a similar place harmonically, his attack is far harder. Otherwise i agree with Ian. To my ears Zeitlin is pretty much an original.
Now he Sings,,,, is one of my favourite piano trio albums
Ian ...Fancy playing this piano?
Last edited by burning dog; 28-01-18, 14:59.
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Originally posted by burning dog View PostThe Denny Zeitlin album is great - only heard of him from old copies of Downbeat!
on CBS - they must have been expecting a lot from him, but wasn't it also the time the company was starting to lose interest in Mainstream Jazz?
Wouldn't mistake him for Bill Evans though he historically is in a similar place harmonically, his attack is far harder. Otherwise i agree with Ian. To my ears Zeitlin is pretty much an original.
Now he Sings,,,, is one of my favourite piano trio albums
Ian ...Fancy playing this piano?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f7aF8npx9M
The strange thing about listening to these piano trios is that they really swung whereas so many contemporary records seem to concentrate on the introspective possibilities of the music. The Chick Corea album is a really good example of how exciting a piano trio can be. I do miss this element from this format. A lot of rightly made of Bill Evans' trio giving more democracy amongst the three musicians and this does make the format more interesting. These days it seems more fashionable for trios to have the bass and drums play an ostinato pattern for the piano to improvise over. I have heard groups like Go Go Penguin and a number of others play like this over the last few years yet, whilst it might seem for fashionable, I think what groups like the Corea achieved has been totally lost. I suppose the best trio in the traditional sense is Brad Mehldau's although I find this trio to be erratic. I have been mesmerised by Mehldau both on record and live and would say that I have equally been a bit indifferent to his music. The whole role of piano, bass and drums could never be the same after Evans and I would have to say that the most compelling piano trio I have seen in recent years is Jason Moran's Bandwagon. However, the combination of Core / Vitous / Haynes was something truly special and still sounds "modern" fifty years after seeing it's debut. NHS, NHS has got to be an essential jazz album.
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