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  • JasonPalmer
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    • Dec 2022
    • 826

    EFG London Jazz Festival



    looks good, this evening, i busy with childcare for the start but hope to catch the end and then listen again to the start sometime
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 16-11-23, 11:25.
    Annoyingly listening to and commenting on radio 3...
  • Serial_Apologist
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    • Dec 2010
    • 37812

    #2
    Here's the programme, to occupy you for the next two hours:



    90% of the names appearing are totally unknown to me, the jazz content is probably suspect. Of the four I've marked up as possibles Art Themen's New Quintet at the Bulls Head on Friday 17th looks the most promising: no necessity for tiresome booking online where an agency gets a cut, just £15 on the door, and you get the friendliness.

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    • Tenor Freak
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      • Dec 2010
      • 1061

      #3
      I am mulling going over to Walton-on-Thames of all places, to see the Way Out West collective perform this: https://wowjazz.org/gigs/
      all words are trains for moving past what really has no name

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      • Serial_Apologist
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        • Dec 2010
        • 37812

        #4
        Originally posted by Tenor Freak View Post
        I am mulling going over to Walton-on-Thames of all places, to see the Way Out West collective perform this: https://wowjazz.org/gigs/
        Then you are a brave venturer, TF. I used to attend most of the WOW gigs when they were divided between the Bull's Head and Cafe Posk in Chiswick, but these days just find the voyage out to W-o-T too far to travel, all the train changes involved, hanging around on Clapham Junction late on freezing winter nights for the last leg to arrive.

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        • Ein Heldenleben
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          • Apr 2014
          • 6929

          #5
          Is the EFG in the above the Swiss Private Bank with the same initials ? If so this must be the greatest sponsor mismatch in artistic history . Jazz musicians all over the world must be queuing up to use their services ..all that spare cash they must have from cash in hand gigs.

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          • Old Grumpy
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            • Jan 2011
            • 3643

            #6
            Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View Post
            Is the EFG in the above the Swiss Private Bank with the same initials ? If so this must be the greatest sponsor mismatch in artistic history . Jazz musicians all over the world must be queuing up to use their services ..all that spare cash they must have from cash in hand gigs.
            Music to do your ironyng by...

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            • Ein Heldenleben
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              • Apr 2014
              • 6929

              #7
              Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post

              Music to do your ironyng by...
              It’s is the Swiss Private Bank - could have been a Scandinavian furniture firm or the European Federation of Geologists - though I think a Rock festival would suit them better.

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              • Serial_Apologist
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                • Dec 2010
                • 37812

                #8
                Originally posted by Old Grumpy View Post

                Music to do your ironyng by...
                That made me crease up.

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                • Tenor Freak
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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 1061

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post

                  Then you are a brave venturer, TF. I used to attend most of the WOW gigs when they were divided between the Bull's Head and Cafe Posk in Chiswick, but these days just find the voyage out to W-o-T too far to travel, all the train changes involved, hanging around on Clapham Junction late on freezing winter nights for the last leg to arrive.
                  Well I did go, and an enjoyable one it was too. Nice to see a variety of veteran saxophonists backed up by some younger musicians including Gary Willcox who is an old mucker of mine from years ago. I agree, on public transport it's going to be a biatch to get there; good job I have a car as I was travelling from deepest Wiltshire. I was impressed by the vocalist, Nette Robinson who has a lot of stage presence and is very much in the vein of Norma Winstone (that is a compliment by the way). During the gig she mentioned that she had worked with the late Michael Garrick, which made a lot of sense.

                  Funnily enough, nobody mentioned the sponsors or anything corporate at all during the gig.
                  all words are trains for moving past what really has no name

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                  • Serial_Apologist
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                    • Dec 2010
                    • 37812

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Tenor Freak View Post

                    Well I did go, and an enjoyable one it was too. Nice to see a variety of veteran saxophonists backed up by some younger musicians including Gary Willcox who is an old mucker of mine from years ago. I agree, on public transport it's going to be a bitch to get there; good job I have a car as I was travelling from deepest Wiltshire. I was impressed by the vocalist, Nette Robinson who has a lot of stage presence and is very much in the vein of Norma Winstone (that is a compliment by the way). During the gig she mentioned that she had worked with the late Michael Garrick, which made a lot of sense.

                    Funnily enough, nobody mentioned the sponsors or anything corporate at all during the gig.
                    They're self-subsistant, which is remarkable and laudable in this dane age, and I guess dependent on friendship as much as principles and agreed musical aesthetics. There's a bit of history to consider there: children of the 1970s when operating against the tide of Free and Fusion in the shadows of the Surman generation as individuals, the belated lesson provided a decade later by Loose Tubes, with whom some in the advertised band worked, would forge lasting productive relationships. I think Tony Kinsey, who goes all the way back to the Dankworth Seven in 1950, is like having a kind of elder father figure. Nette is by the way Tony Woods' missus - or was, the last time I checked! Kate Williams is daughter to John W. the famous classical guitarist.

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                    • Dave2002
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                      • Dec 2010
                      • 18034

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Tenor Freak View Post

                      Well I did go, and an enjoyable one it was too.

                      ...

                      I agree, on public transport it's going to be a biatch to get there; good job I have a car as I was travelling from deepest Wiltshire.
                      Glad you enjoyed it.

                      You must be very dedicated - quite a slog from Wiltshire. It's bad enough from nearby places on the south west side of London. It could also take a few minutes to find, and get parked up - the venue isn't that easy to find.

                      It's also nearly 2 miles from either Walton or Shepperton station.

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                      • Ian Thumwood
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 4222

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                        Here's the programme, to occupy you for the next two hours:



                        90% of the names appearing are totally unknown to me, the jazz content is probably suspect. Of the four I've marked up as possibles Art Themen's New Quintet at the Bulls Head on Friday 17th looks the most promising: no necessity for tiresome booking online where an agency gets a cut, just £15 on the door, and you get the friendliness.
                        i had a look at the programme and was surprised how unfamiliar so many of the names were. In my opinion the tone of the jazz festival has shifted and there seemed to be a lot of stuff that appeals to a broader audience but which is maybe off-putting to genuine jazz fans. Reading through the list of artists, I was shocked how few of the gigs were of interest. It was redolent of what happened at Vienne and maybe typical of most jazz festivals these days. More "jazzy" than actual "jazz? "

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                        • Serial_Apologist
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 37812

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ian Thumwood View Post

                          i had a look at the programme and was surprised how unfamiliar so many of the names were. In my opinion the tone of the jazz festival has shifted and there seemed to be a lot of stuff that appeals to a broader audience but which is maybe off-putting to genuine jazz fans. Reading through the list of artists, I was shocked how few of the gigs were of interest. It was redolent of what happened at Vienne and maybe typical of most jazz festivals these days. More "jazzy" than actual "jazz? "
                          While I would tend to think so, I have recently surprised myself with one or two items on J to Z, and also become more and more bewildered by the huge number (to me) of newcomers, many bearing names difficult to remember... and I hope this doesn't sound racist! It maybe just be a product of ageing memory, though the two years out of the music due to Covid seemed to delay the announcing of many of them. I think some of these youngsters - or the more talented at any rate - cut across playing styles and disciplines, so one might find a good saxophonist lacing not very interesting clichéd ideas against for example Afrobeat stylings in one place but improvising with genuine musical commitment in more adventurous surrounds.

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                          • Serial_Apologist
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                            • Dec 2010
                            • 37812

                            #14
                            Reviews of London Jazz Festival gigs from today's London Jazz News:

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                            • JasonPalmer
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                              • Dec 2022
                              • 826

                              #15
                              This evenings concert is from the festival. Not live though.
                              Annoyingly listening to and commenting on radio 3...

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