Has jazz run its course?

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

When I use the word Jazz it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.

"The question is...", said Alice Coltrane....


BN.

[Bryn]

Great non-jazz impro from Evan Parker with AMM at Cafe OTO last night. Packed house with standing room only, and very little of that. Will try and get to Evan's jazz evening on Saturday night.

[burning dog]

"Jazz is what the Lincoln Center does"

Toni Morrison

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

"Jazz is what the Lincoln Center does"

Toni Morrison

Herbert Lives!

"Freedom is always and exclusively
freedom for the one who plays their socialist Selmer V
differently." - Rosa Luxemburg


"Just play the f. tune, Comrades! - (Uncle) Joe Stalin


BN.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

"Just put the f%cking horn down" Miles to John C and all circular breathing sax longeuristas flaunting their Norwegians in public....

¡Viva el Consejo del Condado de Londres!

[MrGongGong]

"Just put the f%cking horn down"

This

Is a HORN

this

Is a Saxophone

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

"The saxophone was marketed as an
‘easy’ instrument -
“Health, wealth, and happiness
gravitate toward the man who can
play a Buescher Sax...” ran the ad
from the Buescher Band Instrument
Co. “... Gives you the chance to enjoy
all the pleasures of life. So easy to
learn, too, on a Buescher. Many
master scales the first hour; play
tunes in a week ; join a band or
orchestra in 90 days, But only with a
Buescher is this rapid progress
assured...”

And then there's the drugs.....


BN.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

well MrGongGong you should raise that nomenclature issue with Mr Davis when you next meet; he will undoubtedly advise that even the angels' harps are 'f%cking horns'


[delightful clip btw]

'Aimez-vous Brahms?'

[Serial_Apologist]

Great non-jazz impro from Evan Parker with AMM at Cafe OTO last night. Packed house with standing room only, and very little of that.

Probably as much of a surprise to Evan as to anyone; but he is 70, after all...

[Quarky]

Very well expressed Calum!

But, in regard to "Jazz expresses the rejection of the slavery and colonialism of its historical roots and the racism of its country of origin. It expresses the liberation of the individual, the natural flow of individual experience, the mutuality of ensemble performance and the necessity for personal dedication and development."
, I fear Jazz has been overtaken - did you see Mel B and Sarah-Jane hosting the Mobo awards last night?

[Serial_Apologist]

Very well expressed Calum!

But, in regard to "Jazz expresses the rejection of the slavery and colonialism of its historical roots and the racism of its country of origin. It expresses the liberation of the individual, the natural flow of individual experience, the mutuality of ensemble performance and the necessity for personal dedication and development."
, I fear Jazz has been overtaken - did you see Mel B and Sarah-Jane hosting the Mobo awards last night?

Go on - tell us more...

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

"They got the Mobo workin' but it sure don't work on me" - Muddy Waters, Chess records.

BN

[Ian Thumwood]

I watched about ten minutes of the Mobo awards but was hugely depressed by the calibre of the music. After the third tune in the same key an with the same 4-bar patterns, I turned it off and finished by James Bond book instead. Amazing to see how crap this music is - especially if you think how Black music has defined the 20th century in musical terms whether it is Bessie Smith, Louis Armstrong, Charlie Parker, Duke Ellington, Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Stevie Wonder, Prince, Michael Jackson, sister Rosetta Tharpe, Blind Lemon Jefferson, etc, etc.
With regard to the main thrust of this thread, no one seems to have picked up on the fact that it is just interesting to discover new artists whose work may be unfamiliar. I love the risk of buying records by people I've never heard before or going to gigs by musicians I've only ever read about. I can't understand how this makes you fed up with music! This year I was bowled over by the Tedeschi Trucks Band and last year I discovered Youn Sun Nah. Nothing beats the excitement of hearing something fresh and original nor the idea that you might have stumbled upon something well before anyone else is aware. The best example f this was catching Esperanza Spalding a few years back before she "broke." Don't understand how you can ever get fed up with jazz as there is always something new to get acquainted with.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

All right for you Ian, but by the time I've spent my pension on a sack of soya beans, some economy bulk rice and Polish pickled cabbage, then bought the weeks duck food and copper wired the electricity live at the mains, I only have enough left to rumage through the box of old Sandie Shaw 45s in the market. Good B sides tho. Sandie should should have signed to Bluenote when she was hot. BN.