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  • Serial_Apologist
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    • Dec 2010
    • 37985

    #16
    Thanks for finding that, Bluesie.

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    • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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      • Dec 2010
      • 4331

      #17
      I've been listening to the album all afternoon on Utube...at least to the tracks that are up and am really impressed. Graham Collier is someone I always paid lip service to but never really took on board. So good I'm buying the album! And really taken with Nick's playing on this...esp on Danish Blue. I can remember him trying to master basic Chris Barberisms. Well, he was about 14.

      BN

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      • Serial_Apologist
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        • Dec 2010
        • 37985

        #18
        Originally posted by BLUESNIK'S REVOX View Post
        I've been listening to the album all afternoon on Utube...at least to the tracks that are up and am really impressed. Graham Collier is someone I always paid lip service to but never really took on board. So good I'm buying the album! And really taken with Nick's playing on this...esp on Danish Blue. I can remember him trying to master basic Chris Barberisms. Well, he was about 14.

        BN
        If it's not too late a few years back I picked up the triple re-release of "Down Another Road", "Songs for My Father" from 1970 which includes Tony Roberts and Alan Skidmore, and John Taylor, which is even better, possibly his best ever; and "Mosaics", which is a rather introspective though fine live session of the new end-1970 group with Beckett, Alan Wakeman and Bob Sydor (sometimes locking saxes), Geoff Castle on joanna (afterwards with Nucleus) and on drums John Webb, also with Harry Beckett's amazing band at this time, and recommended by John Marshall as his own replacement on joining Nukilass. The re-release was on BGO records.

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        • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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          • Dec 2010
          • 4331

          #19
          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
          If it's not too late a few years back I picked up the triple re-release of "Down Another Road", "Songs for My Father" from 1970 which includes Tony Roberts and Alan Skidmore, and John Taylor, which is even better, possibly his best ever; and "Mosaics", which is a rather introspective though fine live session of the new end-1970 group with Beckett, Alan Wakeman and Bob Sydor (sometimes locking saxes), Geoff Castle on joanna (afterwards with Nucleus) and on drums John Webb, also with Harry Beckett's amazing band at this time, and recommended by John Marshall as his own replacement on joining Nukilass. The re-release was on BGO records.
          MANY thanks. Time I parted with some money. There's some mid 60s Swedish jazz I been after for a while so will do a bulk order.

          BN.

          British jass attitudes to rock..."twangers"

          Marty Wilde recording "Endless Sleep" in 58 to the session drummer..."I think it might sound better if you used sticks and not brushes?" Drummer (Phil Seamen) with total contempt, "Go fk yourself". I have heard "Marty" laughing as he tells this story.

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          • Alyn_Shipton
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 777

            #20
            There are I think at least three BGO reissues of Graham's stuff from the 60s and 70s. I did the notes for "Down Another Road" / "Songs for My Father" and "Mosaics" on one set, and then there's "Deep Dark Blue Centre" / "Portraits" and "The Alternative Mosaics" on which I also collaborated with GC on the notes. Plus they'd already brought out "Midnight Blue" and "New Conditions". Although Graham vehemently disagreed with me, I think this set of eight albums is his best work. You can hear some of our fizzing discussion on the Jazz Library we did together: click on "Clip" and it will stream http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00p66k7

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            • aka Calum Da Jazbo
              Late member
              • Nov 2010
              • 9173

              #21
              thanks Alyn i think those sets are on emusic and are scheduled for this month's scoop!


              speaking El Senor of Swedish has any one a view on the Fire Orchestra?

              According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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              • Serial_Apologist
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 37985

                #22
                Originally posted by Alyn_Shipton View Post
                There are I think at least three BGO reissues of Graham's stuff from the 60s and 70s. I did the notes for "Down Another Road" / "Songs for My Father" and "Mosaics" on one set, and then there's "Deep Dark Blue Centre" / "Portraits" and "The Alternative Mosaics" on which I also collaborated with GC on the notes. Plus they'd already brought out "Midnight Blue" and "New Conditions". Although Graham vehemently disagreed with me, I think this set of eight albums is his best work. You can hear some of our fizzing discussion on the Jazz Library we did together: click on "Clip" and it will stream http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00p66k7
                SO you did, Alyn; and iimss very good notes indeed they are! - very remiss of me not to have read on when sending my recommender to Bluesnik. Thanks for the link - I may have missed that particular JL: will listen tomorrow.

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                • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 4331

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                  SO you did, Alyn; and iimss very good notes indeed they are! - very remiss of me not to have read on when sending my recommender to Bluesnik. Thanks for the link - I may have missed that particular JL: will listen tomorrow.
                  Thanks to all for the suggestions.

                  This from a Collier interview....


                  "How did your work get the attention of
                  major labels like Deram/London and
                  Fontana/Philips so early on?

                  In that particular case there was a contract
                  with Philips for three records that lapsed, and
                  all of us – Mike Gibbs, Mike Westbrook, and
                  the others got short-term contracts and tried
                  their hand until the companies realized they
                  couldn't sell this stuff. When BGO wanted to
                  do these reissues, they did it without my
                  knowledge. I had gotten the rights back from
                  Philips in the 1990s for my own music and
                  had a tremendous argument with Universal and
                  got my money, and they did it again with the
                  Gilles Peterson compilation and with the
                  Japanese reissues. My contract has been
                  flouted three times – a lawyer friend of mine
                  in London said that you couldn't find a music
                  lawyer in England who isn't connected to
                  Universal. I started Mosaic Records in the early
                  1970s to get over the fact that the music was
                  piling up and it was hard to find an interested
                  label – they still didn't sell very well, but the
                  fact that BGO wants to re-release the music
                  and that some people find it pleasurable is
                  quite flattering. The new one I couldn't find
                  any label to put it out, so I did it myself again
                  and it's not easy to sell but it has gotten some
                  good PR from the critics and the radio.
                  Hopefully that will eat up some of the debt –
                  it's a record, it's there, and it's a calling card.
                  I think this is what we have to do in the jazz
                  business such as it is, is to do your own thing
                  and be your own promoter, and I'm lucky that
                  I can do it."


                  BN.

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