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**Serial_Apologist** · 15-08-14, 13:46

Thanks for the forearming, Alyn.

Particularly looking forward to the Bruce Turner Jump Band track. I once knew a woman who went out with Bruce; "Perfect gentleman, he was - let me sleep in his bed while he slept on the floor. Always called me 'dad', just like everybody else. Communist, of course, but he would never shove it down your throat sort of thing, if you know what I mean?"

That was many years before his autobiography, of which I lent her my copy. I managed to find this obit from the Indy from 30 November 1993:

Obituary: Bruce Turner

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/obituary-bruce-turner-1507707.html

Bruce Turner, clarinettist, saxophonist and band leader: born Saltburn-by-the- Sea, Yorkshire 5 July 1922; died Newport Pagnall, Buckinghamshire 28 November 1993.

Good that somebody has asked for a track from Theo Travis's "View from the Edge" - we so rarely hear of him these days.

**aka Calum Da Jazbo** · 15-08-14, 16:48

mea culpa had not heard of Theo Travis so look forward to the track ..

and Lennie Tristano whose music looms larger and larger in my listening and estimation these days...

cheers for the post Alyn

**BLUESNIK'S REVOX** · 15-08-14, 17:35

Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post

mea culpa had not heard of Theo Travis so look forward to the track ..

and Lennie Tristano whose music looms larger and larger in my listening and estimation these days...

cheers for the post Alyn

Charlie Mariano/Jerry Dodgion Sextet...

"Pianist Russ Freeman, who produced this
record, related it this way: “The last time we
were (with Shelly Manne’s quintet) in San
Francisco, we went to blow at some motel on
the outskirts of town one afternoon. There
were some other musicians there; we took
turns playing. Jerry (Dodgion) was there. The
afternoon wound up with Charlie and Jerry
playing the blues with a rhythm section for
about twenty minutes. It was one of the most
memorable experiences I have ever had, and I
wasn’t even playing! The co-leaders, both
“hard” saxists in style, reflect their capable
mastery of the work of those they admire.
Dodgion likes Phil Woods, and Mariano is
more closely Parkerish. “I hear Charlie every
night on my band,” said Shelly Manne, “and
his melodic sense never ceases to amaze me.
His lines are beautiful and he solos with great
continuity.”

I have never heard it but Mariano is well hot et cool. So that's JRR West Coastal then....

BN.

**Alyn_Shipton** · 15-08-14, 17:50

S-A and Calum, don't know where you've been - Theo is a regular with Soft Machine Legacy http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....w-soft-7465887
And Bruce's autobiography is a bit of a sore point with me. After he tried to break into my car (we had identical minis in the 1970s) during the interval of a Humph gig when he needed the cream cakes in the back of his car, he gave me the first draft of the book to read. I gave him loads of suggestions and he adopted most of them. I assumed he'd publish the book with me (I was then at Macmillan doing books with Buck Clayton, Andy Kirk etc) but to my surprise it was announced from Quartet. I met him at the Bull's Head, and he said, "Oh Dad, you and Chris Parker [then Quartet's jazz editor] - always get you confused. He seemed quite surprised when I thanked him for all the revisions..."

**charles t** · 15-08-14, 19:55

Had not heard of Theo Travis prior to his fine work, on tenor, with Soft Machine Legacy.

An aside:

Alyn: I don't know where S-A and Calum have been - figuratively speaking, either.

**charles t** · 16-08-14, 05:15

Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post

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and Lennie Tristano whose music looms larger and larger in my listening and estimation these days...

cheers for the post Alyn

Calum: When I caught Lennie Tristano at Orchestra Hall (in Chicago) ... I think he was already seated at the piano...rather than being led onto the stage...and...

The visual experience was a literal personification of A Whiter Shade Of Pale: No sun ever fell on this dude!

And, then they began things with a version of Yesterdays, that was completely ethereal in the interweaving contrapuntal sonic-voicings of Lee Konitz and Warne Marsh and Tristano (rhythm session escapes me.)

A living example of the concept:

Time Stood Still.

**aka Calum Da Jazbo** · 16-08-14, 08:48

well S_A will no doubt speak for himself but as to where i have been .... it is a complete mystery to me these days .... i scarce know i exist at all except that as the ink dries on the page i feel ok considering .... ruminations are not too good for one's mental robustness ... doesn't do to dwell on all that dried ink eh?

just been reading Carpenter's Envy of the World [R3 biography] in which he gives mention of JRR in 1973 being followed by Critics Choice [the producer liatened to it and got a much bigger audience for the chat by following the jazz] .... where were Soft Machine then then?

In 1973, after the release of Six, Hopper left and was replaced by Roy Babbington, another former Nucleus member, who had already contributed with double bass on Fourth and Fifth and took up (6-string) electric bass successfully, while Karl Jenkins progressively took over the role of band-leader and main composer. After they released Seven (1973) without additional musicians, the band switched record labels from Columbia to Harvest. On their 1975 album Bundles, a significant musical change occurred with fusion guitarist Allan Holdsworth adding guitar as a very prominent melody instrument to the band's sound, sometimes reminiscent of John McLaughlin's Mahavishnu Orchestra, setting the album apart from previous Soft Machine releases, which had rarely featured guitars. On the last official studio album Softs (1976), he was replaced by John Etheridge. Ratledge, the last remaining original member of the band, had left during the early stages of recording. Other musicians in the band during the later period were bassists Percy Jones (of Brand X) and Steve Cook,[6] saxophonists Alan Wakeman and Ray Warleigh, and violinist Ric Sanders. Their 1977 performances and record (titled Alive and Well, ironically) were among the last for Soft Machine as a working band. The Soft Machine name was used for the 1981 record Land of Cockayne (with Jack Bruce and, again, Allan Holdsworth, plus Ray Warleigh and Dick Morrissey on saxes and John Taylor on electric piano), and for a final series of dates at London's Ronnie Scott's Jazz Club in the summer of 1984, featuring Jenkins and Marshall leading an ad hoc lineup of Etheridge, Warleigh, pianist Dave MacRae and bassist Paul Carmichael.

i see that Travis entered the softness domain in 2006 far too recent for me to possibly recall although now you mention it i did see them at the Y in Leicester a while back mind you ia can still not quite come to terms with the Flamingo being an Irishthemegastropub .[branding is so oxymoronic these days innit]..

never forget Intuition!

**Ian Thumwood** · 16-08-14, 10:56

I saw Theo Travis perform with a group in the unlikely venue of a theatre in Christchurch some time in the mid 1990's. At the time he used to get good reviews on "Impressions" whenever he released a new album but the gig wasn't particularly memorable. I think he got more involved in the Prog Jack - Rock stuff and therefore I lost track of his music. He was a bit folksy from recollection and I believe Alan Parnell's son was in the line up. Just the kind of jazz you would expect to hear in Christchurch but it is not somewhere I go to that often.

**BLUESNIK'S REVOX** · 16-08-14, 12:17

Just playing thro a box of C90s and what should come up on the March 23 2007 JRR but a request for a Bruce Turner track... Down South Camp Meeting...from Ed Reardon!

Can it be?

BN.

**Ian Thumwood** · 16-08-14, 17:05

Can't understand why no one has ever requested anything by the Bayou Boys. More elusive than Ron Coltrane, perhaps?

**aka Calum Da Jazbo** · 17-08-14, 10:16

speaking of C90s which are all departed hereabouts have just scored the two album version of the Fairfield Hall Concert by the Art Pepper Quartet - a concert broadcast that the entire bored seemed to have taped back in the day .... wonderful stuff innit [not stupid]?

**BLUESNIK'S REVOX** · 17-08-14, 11:35

Yes very fine for Art etc although I was never a fan of Bob Magnuson's bass - too busy and with sound like an amped up elastic band. ("If I want fkg glisses from you I'll ask fkg for 'em" - Herr Buddy Rich)

BN.

I got "Blues for the Fisherman" in pure mint from the guy who sells punk records in my local market. I asked him if he realised it was worth a bit and he said, "OK, a fiver". "I ran all the way home" as the song goes.

BTW, liked the Nat Cole take on Lush Life on JRR, a song that can easily go mawkish. There is a very fine 60s Clifford Jordon version that I may propose to JRR on Sea.

**aka Calum Da Jazbo** · 17-08-14, 12:50

bass sounds better on digital

ah lovelorn teenage years:

**Serial_Apologist** · 17-08-14, 13:30

Originally posted by BLUESNIK'S REVOX View Post

Yes very fine for Art etc although I was never a fan of Bob Magnuson's bass - too busy and with sound like an amped up elastic band. ("If I want fkg glisses from you I'll ask fkg for 'em" - Herr Buddy Rich)

BN.

We have completely opposite views on bass playing then, Bluesie: for me Gary Peacock, Barry Guy, Ron Matthewson and Paul Rogers are the epitome of loose underpinners: I just love those overtones-laden slitherers - for my taste too many just walk a line today. It all comes down to taste in the end: one likes it when everyone really gets stuck in, which another hates; but Richard Madgewick (RIP) would have agreed with you though: "I think Ron Matthewson got that sound on an acoustic bass by loosening his strings".

I got "Blues for the Fisherman" in pure mint from the guy who sells punk records in my local market. I asked him if he realised it was worth a bit and he said, "OK, a fiver". "I ran all the way home" as the song goes.

I had the very same experience a year ago, here in London, in the local market - £6 (actually) for an excellent copy in good condition, just needed a bit of a clean-up.

Sorry: it was in Rough Trade in Whitechapel - wadja bleeveit???!!!

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