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  • Ian Thumwood
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    • Dec 2010
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    Really the blues ? - contemporary blues and social commentary

    I owe Bluesnik a favour for giving me the heads up regarding country blues and I think it was largely through his recommendations that I have listened a lot to the likes of Blind Willie McTell and his contemporaries. The music seems most "authentic" in it's late 1920's and early 30's incarnation when the social conditions of the time seemed to ensure that blues was the musical expression of black, American society. The notion of the blues artist as a solitary and wandering master of his guitar and poet of social expression is core to most people's perception of this music even if Elijah Wald's exceptional piece of research "Escaping the delta" explained how much of a myth this was with country musicians largely having a far wider repertoire than generally understood and often simply picking up on the then current fashion for more "urban" blues artists like Bessie Smith. Wald goes on to describe the likes of Leroy Carr as someone who increasingly transformed the blues in to something more commercial (I don't think necessarily less potent) and this led to the even more commercial stuff such as late 1940's R n' B.


    Picking up on this "commercial" element, it's really fascinating when you encounter live blues that the social history than makes tracks by the likes of Charley Patton appealing doesn't matter. I've seen the likes of Robert Cray, Eric Bibb, Lucky Peterson, L'il Ed and the Blues imperials, Taj Mahal, Magic Slim, Buddy Guy, Keb Mo' and B B King in concert and loved every moment of their music. However, I don't think the "social" commentary was big on their agenda even if someone like Eric Bibb share that poetic quality with some of his influences. The only time I've heard a more politicized blues group I found the experience pretty unsettling and outspoken in a fashion that was more akin to Rap. For biting social commentary Rap is probably today's replacement for blues yet there is a bit gap in musical technique and the language is pretty unsophisticated even if you consider something like McTell's "Your southern can is mine" which is pretty explicit / unsavoury once your realise that the can in question isn't a tin of beer!

    Until earlier this month I had only ever read about their music but the gig by the Tedeschi Trucks Band last month really opened by ears. This is just about the best blues band I've heard but their music is effectively performed by a big band and their material includes music that includes funk, C&W and a heavy dose of rock. Susan Tedeschi even sounds like Bonnie Raitt. That said, her husband is probably one of the best slide guitarist's around, plays in the current version of the Allman brothers band yet is an avowed John Coltrane disciple. After playing a CD of their in my car all week, I'm not convinced that this is really a blues band or is even a jazz group despite the musicians have the kind of chops that would make most rock bands sound like little school boys jamming away in their garage. Their music is pretty impressive none-the-less and the band extremely tight with plenty of room for extended improvisations in concert. Are their any other TTB fans out there?

    No one of this board seems to be on to the current blues scene and there aren't too many musicians playing blues who aren't on the shady side of 60. The blues audience is pretty different to the jazz audience and they are not quite so snooty if inclined to be more tolerant of the kind of rock that most people on this board would find tedious.

    Curious to see what other board members think....


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  • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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    • Dec 2010
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    Ian, a long time ago I recommended J.B.Lenoir's Alabama Blues from the 60s as an extremely brave album of political/civil rights blues. I saw him in the flesh and he was superb. As was Buddy Guy and Otis Rush and the intimidating Sonny Boy Williamson...who "let me" buy him a bottle of Scotch...."I dont want no one glass man!"

    BN.

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    • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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      • Dec 2010
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      #3
      "Lenoir sounds somehow both relaxed
      and intense on these short pieces, and his
      agenda of both personalizing and politicizing
      the blues is well in evidence on songs like
      "Alabama Blues" and the harrowing "Remove
      This Rope." Fred Below plays drums on "God's
      Word," while Dixon adds some background
      vocals here and there, and gently interviews
      Lenoir at a couple of points.

      Had Lenoir survived into the early '70s, his sharp writing, his emerging experiments with African rhythms (which he called "African Hunch"), and his fierce determination to speak the truth may
      well have made him an international star on
      the order of Bob Marley. Fate took over,
      though, and Lenoir was all but forgotten at the
      time of his death, and continues to be too
      little-known, even in the blues community.

      His last recordings, including the enticing
      fragments found on Alabama Blues , are
      arguably his best, outlining a focused, socially
      committed direction for the blues."

      BN.

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      • Alyn_Shipton
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        • Nov 2010
        • 777

        #4
        BN agree about Lenoir. Paul Oliver introduced me to his music. There's a good interview with J B in Paul's Conversations with the Blues from 1960.

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        • Serial_Apologist
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          • Dec 2010
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          #5
          Originally posted by Ian Thumwood View Post
          Curious to see what other board members think....


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          Well my ears pricked up at the start of that, and I thought, hmm, interesting Indian sitar-like effects he's playing there, and likewise using the Lydian scale (sharpened 4th) which was a bit unusual in a blues setting, if such it was to be, but then it all fell into the sort of laid back 4/4 pentatonic thing with backbeat that reminded me of Pink Floyd and Santana at their least interesting, fine if you're stoned, and by staying in that vein dissuaded me from checking out the other clips from that session. Sorry, Ian: file under World Music board!

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          • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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            • Dec 2010
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            #6
            Originally posted by Alyn_Shipton View Post
            BN agree about Lenoir. Paul Oliver introduced me to his music. There's a good interview with J B in Paul's Conversations with the Blues from 1960.
            Alyn, I think thro the Oliver books I became aware of him. That photo of him in his Zebra coat! It became more possible to record overt political blues in the mid late sixties ....he was doing it in the 50s. Although more "codified" versions were often around far earlier, he was both important and very good.

            BN.

            There's an odd bit of film of him interviewed by that strange Swedish couple in Chicago. I see its now in the Scorcesse box set.

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            • Ian Thumwood
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              • Dec 2010
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              #7
              Bluesnik

              I've got that box set too. It makes fascinating watching although the various films are uneven.

              The thing that really strikes me about blues is that the music seems to be in a state of schizophrenia with the more familiar Chicago / electric music being largely performed by older musicians including Buddy Guy (still amazing when I heard him earlier this month) but with younger players tending to be white and perhaps with a close affinity towards rock, Joe Bonamassa being a good example of the latter. I get a bit sick of reading about jazz being a dead music and nothing new happening yet it is a job to see blues as having a future other than a real minority music as opposed to something that traditionally had pop appeal. Most of the more celebrated blues artists tend to be white these days and I feel that the social commentary aspect has really shrunk to non-existent. Not heard a great deal of J B Lenoir but I suspect he was pretty unique in his time. Listening to the likes of Howlin' Wolf in between some football matches in the World Cup, it was striking how little seemed to offer genuine reflections of politics / social history / tragedy with the "poetic" element of the music limited to similes regarding animals and sexual prowess. True, that element had always been there in the music but the records of 1930s seem to offer an awful lot more with regard to the vividness of the lyrics so that the likes of Robert Johnson were effectively poets. It's fair to say that the likes of Magic Slim could be amusing with his lyrics and the likes of Guy, Peterson, King, etc have sufficient character to ensure that their music is delivered with elan. However, for lyrical content, the music of Eric Bibb does take some beating. "Booker's Guitar" is the nearest I've heard in a contemporary setting of an acoustic artist offering a parallel to the greats of 20's / 30's yet he uses a lot of references to the floods of 1927 which he would have had no personal experience of and also comes from an era where incomes, quality of life, fairness of the legal system, etc contribute to make songs about hardship seem minimal in comparison with some of the horrible lives lived by the famous names from the past let along their often tragic , early deaths. As I said, it seems Rap had perhaps replaced blues in offering a social commentary but, to my ears at least, rap has very little musical merit. The other curious thing about Eric Bibb is that he is an extremely cultured and knowledgeable musician who would hold his own in jazz environments. Despite this, it does seem funny for a blues musician to laud the harmonic language of Gabriel Faure of all people - probably about as far as Classical music can get to the blues even though I like GF's music.

              Having caught Tedeschi Trucks perform live my perception is totally different from S.A's as I was staggered at how tight this band was and the panache and verve with which they delivered their lengthy set. Derek Trucks is an sensational slide guitarist and whilst I also liked Santana when I heard him perform a few years back, I think they both sound different. Santana is on the verges of jazz for me - again he is another devotee of John Coltrane. That said, not all of the TTB's material is jazz and there is an undercurrent of Country in their too although very much refracted through a jazz / soul / roots influence. If you consider the wide range of repertoire performed by blues musicians since the days of Mississippi John Hurt and Frank Stokes, it wasn't always blues and in this respect the TTB are similar. It also helps that Trucks is only about mid thirties - not too many other musicians of his generation are performing in this style and those blues artists who are popular (Seasick Steve) seem to be fakes whose music palls pretty quickly. Trucks offers an alternative vision for blues to my ears and the song writing is pretty good. That said, never heard anyone on this board make any sort of claim for any blues musicians who is under pensionable age and wonder if those people on here who do listen to blues consider the likes of Keb Mo, Robert Cray, etc too much on an FM cop-out whilst mistrusting the world music leanings of Taj Mahal - the latter's collaboration with Malian musicians in Vienne this year offering a serendipitous marriage of two styles of music where the two styles neatly dovetail and compliment each other. File under "World music board?" Perhaps, but why should "world music" be considered to be inferior in any respect. Malians musicians are pretty incredible and almost like prehistoric blues musicians themselves.

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              • Russ

                #8
                Originally posted by Ian Thumwood View Post
                Are their any other TTB fans out there?
                Yes, a big fan for quite a few years now, and I'm envious of anyone who's got to see them live. I've never seen TTB as a 'blues band' though, nor falling into that tradition. There's a few online versions of Midnight in Harlem, but my favourite is probably the one in front of a very chilled 2010 Crossroads festival crowd. For more of Derek Trucks sitar-influenced slide playing, listen to Sahib Teri Bandi.

                Russ

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                • Ian Thumwood
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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 4255

                  #9
                  Russ

                  Thanks for the response and links.

                  The TTB seem to cover all bases such as soul, jazz, blues and rock yet never seem to lose their identity. I saw them as part of a triple bill that also included Buddy Guy whose music was incredible even if the set was particularly informal with a lot of exchange with the audience and some tunes started before being immediately cut short. By contrast the TTB was far more polished and the music had a degree of precision and clout which did recall the Basie band - even if the styles were significantly different. A lot of artists booked as "blues" seem to be hedging their bets and producing a range of different styles that deviates from the general perception of what blues are about with live gigs by the likes of Keb Mo and Robert Cray being a bit FM friendly even if hugely enjoyable.

                  Trucks is an interesting musician. There is supposedly a clip of him playing slide guitar at the age of 3 and he already had built up a strong reputation by the age of 12. He is still only in his mid 30's and remarkably open minded in his influences and the music he covers which can ebven take in tunes like Steve Wonder's "Up tight", even if the results are akin to the kind of stuff Gil Evans Monday Night Orchestra used to produce in the 1980's that were issued on a number of live LPs from the Sweet Basil jazz club.

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                  • Tom Audustus

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Ian Thumwood View Post
                    Russ

                    Thanks for the response and links.

                    The TTB seem to cover all bases such as soul, jazz, blues and rock yet never seem to lose their identity. I saw them as part of a triple bill that also included Buddy Guy whose music was incredible even if the set was particularly informal with a lot of exchange with the audience and some tunes started before being immediately cut short. By contrast the TTB was far more polished and the music had a degree of precision and clout which did recall the Basie band - even if the styles were significantly different. A lot of artists booked as "blues" seem to be hedging their bets and producing a range of different styles that deviates from the general perception of what blues are about with live gigs by the likes of Keb Mo and Robert Cray being a bit FM friendly even if hugely enjoyable.

                    Trucks is an interesting musician. There is supposedly a clip of him playing slide guitar at the age of 3 and he already had built up a strong reputation by the age of 12. He is still only in his mid 30's and remarkably open minded in his influences and the music he covers which can ebven take in tunes like Steve Wonder's "Up tight", even if the results are akin to the kind of stuff Gil Evans Monday Night Orchestra used to produce in the 1980's that were issued on a number of live LPs from the Sweet Basil jazz club.
                    Give Matt Schofield a listen. A modern blues musician with fewer rock cliches than you usually get.

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                    • Ian Thumwood
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                      • Dec 2010
                      • 4255

                      #11
                      Tom

                      I will give a listen to Matt Schofield once I can get Youtube working again.

                      Here is a link to a recent TTB concert / review:-

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