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  • Paul Campbell
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    • Nov 2010
    • 59

    Charlie Haden RIP

    Many will be saddened to hear of the passing of the great Charlie Haden. From his early work with Ornette onwards, I think few bassists have given me as much pleasure as Mr Haden. RIP
  • Paul Campbell
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    • Nov 2010
    • 59

    #2

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    • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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      • Dec 2010
      • 4353

      #3
      "Very sad news:

      The legendary bassist was 76,
      and for the last few years had
      been suffering from the
      effects of post-polio
      syndrome. Haden, who
      performed in Confederation
      Park in 2008 with his Quartet
      West band, had been
      considerably weakened since
      2011 – almost unable to
      swallow, and definitely unable
      to perform."

      Awful news.

      One of the legends.

      BN.


      "“All recordings attempt to
      do that. It doesn’t matter
      if you’re playing “Body and
      Soul” or “The People
      United Will Never be
      Defeated.” Jazz has
      always been an art form of
      struggle. It’s a political
      struggle to get the music
      heard. Whether it’s my
      new album, or the
      Liberation Music Orchestra
      tour, we’re trying to
      change the direction this
      country and this
      administration is going.
      It’s not like the CD is
      going to change the
      election. But voicing my
      concerns is vital. That’s
      what I tried to do on the
      first three Liberation
      Music Orchestra records.
      Voicing my concerns about
      Vietnam, El Salvador,
      everything that was
      happening during the first
      Bush’s administration that
      always ended up sending
      our country into a tragic
      direction.”
      Last edited by BLUESNIK'S REVOX; 12-07-14, 05:46.

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      • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 4353

        #4
        From "Do the Math" 2008.

        "In August 2007, Charlie invited Brad
        Mehldau, Kenny Barron, Paul Bley
        and me to take turns playing duo
        with him at the Blue Note in New
        York. The music was an informal
        70th birthday celebration, and
        likewise this discussion (taped
        during the same week) is an
        incomplete survey of his long and
        vital career.

        We began at the beginning. I am of
        the firm opinion that there are two
        kinds of Ornette Coleman music:
        the kind with Charlie Haden on
        bass, and the kind without.
        ---
        EI: When I was at your house in
        L.A., we looked at all your original
        Ornette LPs, including the ones
        with Scott LaFaro and Jimmy
        Garrison. I asked you whom you
        liked better with Ornette, LaFaro or
        Garrison. An expression of real pain
        crossed your face and you muttered
        something about how it was hard
        for you to listen to any other bassist
        with Ornette. I think you have the
        right to say that.

        CH: Oh, I mean, Scotty and Jimmy
        are great bassists. But -- and this is
        selfish -- when I hear someone else
        with Ornette, I always hear the
        notes I would play and the sound
        that I would use… not theirs."


        BN.

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        • Jazzrook
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          • Mar 2011
          • 3167

          #5
          Very sad news: www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN0TNNSlaX0

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          • aka Calum Da Jazbo
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 9173

            #6
            a great artist

            his work with Ornette Coleman is clearly important but i also adore his Quartet West recordings:

            Last edited by aka Calum Da Jazbo; 12-08-14, 22:52.
            According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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            • Paul Campbell
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 59

              #7
              Me too Calum. I had a lovely chat with Ernie Watts at Birdland a few years ago when he was playing with Kurt Elling, and was able to say how much I admire that body of work.

              I love this too... http://youtu.be/ktfh2uQlbDo
              Last edited by Paul Campbell; 12-07-14, 10:32.

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              • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
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                • Dec 2010
                • 4353

                #8
                Originally posted by Paul Campbell View Post
                Me too Calum. I had a lovely chat with Ernie Watts at Birdland a few years ago when he was playing with Kurt Elling, and was able to say how much I admire ths body of work.

                I love this too... http://youtu.be/ktfh2uQlbDo
                The duo sides with Hampton Hawes...The truly moving Living Legend with Art Pepper...

                BN.

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                • burning dog
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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 1515

                  #9
                  Quartet West recordings are excellent as stated. Such a distinctive bass player.

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                  • charles t
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 592

                    #10
                    Charlie was a true musical hero...as one obit mentioned, he took up he bass when childhood polio affected his voice and he couldn't sing in his folks' little band.

                    And my own unforgettable evening of catching the Liberation Jazz Orch after unknowingly consuming our pre-concert libations on a runway of the Santa Monica airport!

                    As well as hearing more Liberation charts played by the CalArts student orch, led by Charlie - in my neighborhood.

                    A soulful tune - Spiritual - composed by his son, Josh Haden would be a fitting musical tribute within any final rite for this jazz legend.

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                    • charles t
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 592

                      #11
                      Or, with a trio of Ornette Coleman, (Smilin') Billy Higgins and Charlie playing in an old L.A. movie theatre with no air-conditioning. (Don Cherry cancelled because of illness).

                      Despite this, people were standing-up cheering Charlie's solo on the closing tune!

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                      • Ian Thumwood
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 4361

                        #12
                        It's funny how the idea of bass solos can seem an anathema with regard to maintaining interest. For me, it's difficult arguing that the bass solos generally don't take the momentum out of performances. I think that Charlie Haden was unique insofar that his soloing tended to be hugely compelling and when it comes to pizzicato playing no one else could match the lyrical nature of his playing which really drew you in to what he was producing.

                        I accept that the recordings with Ornette Coleman will remain towering performances but there was so much more to his work. for me, "The ballad of the fallen" remains one of the greatest jazz albums of the 1980's and easily within the top 5 produced by ECM. Staggering to think how many musicians on that wonderful record are no longer with us. I would also have to include the music he produced with the Geri Allen trio with Paul Motian as well the trio with Paul Bley on "Memories" which is the epitome of the piano trio well beyond the bar previously set by Motian / Bill Evans / LaFaro which had previously set the standard. "Beyond the Missouri Sky" with Pat Metheny is also indicative of his lyrical abilities as well as his affinity for more song-driven material as well as progressive. "Time on my hands" with John Scofield, Jack DeJohnette and Joe Lovano is also a defining record from the late 1980's and the more horizontal lines where Haden is feeling for the next note are an integral component of that record.

                        For me there as bassists who have driven bands as well as those like Jimmy Blanton, Marc Johnson or Dave Holland who have taken this instrument to higher technical levels. Like Charlie Mingus or William Parker, Charlie Haden is one of the few bassists who has imposed his unique personal style to the instrument and jazz will be immensely poorer for his loss. One of my absolute heroes.

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                        • Paul Campbell
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 59

                          #13
                          This is Spiritual that Charles mentioned....



                          The triplets are very talented too, particularly Petra.

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                          • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                            Late member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 9173

                            #14
                            Haden plainly sought that universal feeling all his life, and the astonishing thing is how wonderfully he was able to share it with the rest of us, to make us see that labels like country and jazz and so forth are more marketing labels than anything else, that American music is in fact best understood as a broad and powerful river, sweeping aside all genre distinctions. And on that river, Charlie Haden was our Huck Finn.
                            from an appreciative essay
                            According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                            • BLUESNIK'S REVOX
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 4353

                              #15
                              CH: Yeah, that's true… Reminds me of the
                              time that Dexter Gordon came to see us
                              rehearse at the Hillcrest. After listening
                              quietly for a while in the back, he came up
                              to stage, sat on a bar stool, and asked, "You
                              cats ever play any standards?"
                              Ornette said, "Sure, man! What would you
                              like to hear?"
                              "How about 'Embraceable You'?"
                              Ornette picked up his horn and played two
                              phrases. Then he put his horn back down,
                              looked at Dexter and said, "That's it."
                              Dexter scratched his head, took another
                              puff of his cigarette, and said, "Thank you,
                              man."
                              I think that moment is one of the reasons
                              we recorded that song on This Is Our Music.
                              EI: I love Ornette's introduction to
                              "Embraceable You."
                              CH: Yeah, man! In those days, the harmony
                              in the horns was real harmony. Later, the
                              harmony was all parallel…
                              EI: Ah, harmolodics.
                              CH: I would say to Ornette, "That's parallel
                              harmony! It sounds Oriental or something."
                              But that's what he wanted.".....from Do the Maths.

                              Always makes me smile.


                              BN.

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