jazz does not sell cds/mp3/seats but coffee 'n donuts

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

a fate worse than ....
aw shucks

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

a fate worse than ....
aw shucks

How true. As I had a triple deep fried breakfast at Moira's Xpresso Besso cafe in Lisle street this morning, the background music was Ronnie Ross, Tubbs and Dizzy Reece....when I asked politely, "No Le Ron on the playlist?" she shouted..."eat your fkg beans baldy or take a hike!"

Her "egg eddie thompson sur toast" was however exceptional.

BN.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

te bendiga bendices y huevos más fácil El Senor

[Serial_Apologist]

te bendiga bendices y huevos más fácil El Senor

Eddie Thompson told the worst dirty jokes I ever heard - PC or non-PC.

I agree with what the article writer says - but jazz has been bourgeois cultural accessory status musak since Wynton declared it so.

Jazz is convivial - not just in some collective p*ss-up sense but because it is like the place to really, really belong, the consecrated deconsecration or universal womb, without which the principle of dropping the supposedly isolated individual into a political vacuum is as likely to make him or her turn to the Right as water (north of the Equator) is to spin anticlockwise going down the sink hole; and it works better in the wake of the convivial than beforehand.

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

Eh? As Moira would say, "do you want chips, black pudding or extra beans with your all day cultural analysis?"

And dont call Moira's jazz cafe ambience "bourgeois". She still uses an old Fidelity tape recorder wired up to a Bush extention speaker. The entire street "rattles" when she puts some of Tony. Crombie's old Rock an Roll tapes on..."Rock you Sinners..."

BN

[Serial_Apologist]

Eh? As Moira would say, "do you want chips, black pudding or extra beans with your all day cultural analysis?"

And dont call Moira's jazz cafe ambience "bourgeois". She still uses an old Fidelity tape recorder wired up to a Bush extention speaker. The entire street "rattles" when she puts some of Tony. Crombie's old Rock an Roll tapes on..."Rock you Sinners..."

BN

I was just trying on my Pseuds Corner slacks for size as happens; they obviously don't fit so well, these days... I still think if you drop someone into a cultural void, left unguided their automatic tendency is to turn to the right.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Anyway, they're called doughnuts in this country.

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

I was just trying on my Pseuds Corner slacks for size as happens; they obviously don't fit so well, these days... I still think if you drop someone into a cultural void, left unguided their automatic tendency is to turn to the right.

Why when I see "cultural void" do I immediately think "Michael Gove"?

Must take more water with it.

BN.

[Ian Thumwood]

Calum

Staggered that the quality of the music played in Starbucks in the first thing you should think to complain about. I would have thought that the disgusting coffee and the overpriced slabs of chemicals which masquerade as cakes would have been the first thing on your list. You don't go to Starbucks to listen to the music but to enjoy the food and drink. However a visit to Starbuck would at least it will allow you, SA and Bluesnik to live the "Friends" experience as you swap comments with Jennifer Anniston about the smooth tones of Stan Getz over a mocha-chino. Maybe you might be fortunate enough to hear the equine Sarah Jessica Parker blow a few choruses on her nose too . However, given that Starbucks are adapt at dodging taxes, it shouldn't be too much of a surprise that they should elect to play music that is probably out of license.

Never quite seen the appeal of Starbucks / Costa Coffee nor "Friends." Can't imagine that Miles would have endorsed this chain of shops.

Can't get too upset by this.

Funny where you can get to hear jazz these days. (They even play it at Ronnie Scot's these days.) I was once put on hold during a phone call to a subcontractor and was surprised to hear some of Thelonious Monk's 1940's blue Note records being played down the line. Made a nice change from Baroque music which manifest's itself like Japanese Knotweed on many telephone answering systems.

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

I haven't been in Starbucks for years and my only interest is when Class War sling a house brick through their front window.

And £3 for a mocha shocka is well out of order when in Wales you can get a giant plastic bottle of cider for £2.50 and still have change for the bus.

BN.

Just obtained Coltrane's "First Meditations" with just the quartet....like to hear that in Bucksters.

[Ian Thumwood]

I would imagine that most people who visit Starbuck are working class. They probably ban chavs but that's not a bad thing. I expect Starbucks would play the "Gentle side of John Coltrane. " it makes you wonder if Helen Mayhew selects their play list. I thought that it was MacDonalds who usually got targeted by class war activists who tend not to notice that this restaurant is hardly likely to employ Jacob Rees- Mogg types. (Sounds like he comes fro your part of the world??)

It would be even better if you could hear live jazz in Starbucks. You don't even hear much jazz in the pubs these days. I think the last pub gig I caught was about 2 years ago but at least the beer was nice.

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

Yes, I too avoid Starbucks because of the "working class"....why some of them have never even read Proust! WTF!

I am reminded of one of (Fabian "Socialist") Virginia Woolf's servants saying to her during the 1924 election...."it looks like we (Labour) are winning Mam!"

Woolf wrote in her diary. .."I knew then that I could never vote to be ruled by the sort of people my servants voted for"

BN.

[Ian Thumwood]

Proust - absolute shite.

I made the mistake of reading the first volume of his book after the recommendation of a friend who taught French in a school in Tours. She said that if I was interested in French literature, this was the book to read. Unfortunately, it went on for ever and ever and this was only the first half of the first volume. In my opinion still with Alain-Fournier - same kind of topic but a riveting yet melancholy tale. A much better writer than Proust and a better story teller to boot. However, I would also suggest that St Exupery was more profound than either Proust or Satre. (Pseuds, beard-scratching twaddle.)

That said, I've a enthusiasm for this French writer's work too. The pictures are much better than in Proust:-

http://www.romainhugault.com/#!/home

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

"Continentals" all Ian, with their absurd ideas and notions. Even boring Voltaire was vastly improved by Lenny Bernstein's catchy tunes.

You stick with your UKIP approved reading list.

BN.

Ian and Tony Blair in one week...what was that Curtis Mayfield said, "If there's a hell below..." If?

[Ian Thumwood]

Ukip approved reading list ? Probably more likely to include someone like Ian Fleming rather than St. Exupery - although I think the James Bond author is someone who wrote some good stories in a lean, economic style but could also become bored with his own writing and make some pretty daft scenarios after carefully crafting some of the build ups. That said, a book like " The spy who loved me" would surprise many as the main protagonist is actually a woman.

Why would you consider St. Exupery to be fashionable with those nutters ? Proust was a writer who could construct amazing sentences of bewildering length but I don't think he was a great story teller. Alain-Fournier covered the same kind of territory whilst producing one of the finest pieces of literature in the 20th Century. For me, "Le grand Meaulnes" resonates for that generation in the same way as something like "Al quiet on the Western front."
Whilst St. Exupery is most well known for "the little prince" I think he is probably the greatest writer on the subject of aviation and extremely profound too. Never read Voltaire but have gone through most of the other French writers (Zola, Balzac, De Maupassant ) as much as I have enjoyed these, St. Exupery and Alain-Fournier are my favourites. Proust may have more "clout" but I found him tedious in the extreme.

I take it that you don't approve of Hugault !! Probably one of the best illustrators of the day.

For a more left -leaning writer, how about Jacques Tardi . "Putain la guerre" is probably one of the greatest of all books to have come out of World War One ~ hardly Ukip material!

http://www.lambiek.net/artists/t/tardi.htm